Those Crazy Keyboards from the 80's

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  1. Mister X

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    I looked around for a keyboard thread but I don't think we have one, since winter is coming and my work load is lighter, it might be nice to start one. Post anything keyboard related.

    Personally I've been picking these up over the years, it's part of the 70s-80's gadgets that I love. Right now I have a Yamaha PSR-70 running through a Peavey KB-100 Keyboard AMP. I've gotten most of my equipment locally usually for a handful of dollars.
     
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    Realistic Concertmates from 1988 that look a lot like Casios.

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    We did discuss Casio keyboards in depth in this thread
    http://stereo2go.com/forums/threads/casio-kx-101.5855/

    If you look down the thread to my second post, back in 1983 I bought the Casio MT65 which was the same as the MT68 but white.
    Back then it cost me £150, but as soon as I heard it I knew that was the model I wanted.
    It sounded as good as the £1000+ home organs the shop I bought it from also sold,

    Here is a great little demo of one


    Almost all Realistic gear had AKAs often from a a big brand like Casio or Sharp.

    Some of the best 1980s keyboards were from JVC, although like their Boomboxes had top of the range prices.
    Here is a demo of one complete with Christmas theme (despite being published on my Birthday!)


    A couple more threads about music keyboards

    http://stereo2go.com/forums/threads/its-big-bad-and-busted-the-fisher-sc-300k.2254/

    http://www.stereo2go.com/forums/threads/do-you-have-any-synths.141


    I just discovered what Revox tape recorders were made for :moonwalk::moonwalk::moonwalk:


    Finally how about this for an amazing track made in real time using three cheap Casios.

    Admittedly the creator was using an effects unit but that was an iPad app.
    The likes of Tangerine Dream would have needed £1000s worth of kit to make music like this in the 1970s.
     
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    Ahh, the humble keyboard! Many hours whittled away trying to work out the tune on a keyboard, though my skills are severely limited to one-finger playing on one hand! I've always wanted to make a song, one day, who knows?!

    My first keyboard was a Casio with a ROM cartridge in the corner that had some built-in songs that taught you how to play them using some LED's on the keys. I learnt a few before it went wrong and refused to work about 6 months after I got it, so back to the shop and they swapped it for a Yamaha PSS-80, which is a good keyboard, but not like my Casio! Years later, I managed to find a boxed Casio at a boot sale for about £5 which works perfectly!

    If you want a great keyboard player, I watch a few on YouTube: Dr Mix, KEBU, Red Means Recording and Andrew Huang, I especially like Mr Huang's Four Producers, One Sample, where he gets a random sample sent to him, he shares it with 3 producers to try and make a song from it.
     
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    I thought we had some threads on here but my search didn't show anything, our computer grid is being hacked right now and everything is slow and not a robust as usual. Anyway here's the Casio MT-10 from 1980 Chicago CES. I think this is the first Casio Keyboard released with several to shortly follow.

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    Casio Keyboards from 1984, Australian Dollars.


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    It is unusual to see so many makes from the same store. Over here the cheap ones tended to be in places like Argos and the expensive ones in specialist Music Shops.

    It seems the Lowrey's were actually rebranded JVCs.
    https://jvckeyboards.tripod.com/lowrey.html

    Hohner had a similar range of Casio rebrands.

    It seems like many Japanese manufacturers had a go a Keyboards when they went dropped down from the price of a car to that of a Bicycle. Even Seiko had a go.
     
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    I thought the Lowrey's were the crappy ones grandma and grampa had, I must have been thinking of a different brand.
     
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    Sort of true. Grandma and Grandpa, who thought Elvis started the decline of music, would buy one with their gold plated pension.
    They would be horrified at "Hipsters" like these getting hold of their precious instruments :old: :shrug: :boogie::banana:

    More seriously this one was from 1979, and according to the presenter, the only "Portable" that Lowrey (I guess as opposed to JVC) made.
    Comparing it to the JVC I posted above it is easy to see and hear why the Japanese keyboards took over.

    p.s. By the end of the demo I was reasonably impressed by the auto-accompniment in this Lowry. However, just from the construction I expect it was expensive, and as she explains Lowrey's definition of portable was "it can be moved by one person".
     
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    That's the Casio PT-80 I had! Love this keyboard!
     
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    Nope, that's the Lowrey I remember, they were a blast to play with, as a kid, but that flat organ sound was horrifying. Even my bright sounding Casio Calculator with tones sounded a million times better.

    Here's another cool keyboard website, this is old, back when the internet was fun and guys were posting neat websites like this. I was looking up the Casio PT-80, I don't have one of those around here. Keyboard hunting has really dried up, I haven't seen one in a long time.
    http://weltenschule.de/TableHooters/instruments.html

    I was searching for more Casio Ads, I forgot how much stuff they made...watches, data-organizers, keyboards, calculators, cash registers, accountants calculators (with paper), little TV's, some audio, etc.
     
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    Which is funny because in 1970 they were only a watch company. This is an odd ad since it's co-branded with Remington Rand, they made a lot of industrial products including a really small offset printer. I got one at a garage sale but could never make it work properly, I think the rollers were out of round.


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    From what I can make out that advert is from 1970 back when calculators were only bought by big businesses and no one had heard of Casio. Remington were well known for typewriters. In fact Wikipedia says that they invented them. Had Casio stuck with just the calculator business they would have had a problem when calculators dropped down to about £5 each. I'm surprised the "Casio Computer Company" never really ventured into home computers to the same degree as Sharp, Commodore, and Sinclair. Given the competition it was probably a good thing that they didn't. Between them Casio and Yamaha seemed to have the majority of the home keyboard market.

    In 1983 I paid £150 (over £500 in todays money) for my Casio MT65. That was actually from a large Organ shop and before the Casios started appearing in electrical retailers. A friend was so impressed he bought the CT405 with full size keys for about £250.

    As you say they seem to have disappeared again except for specialist music shops, Argos and the occasional one model special offer in Lidl. Like a lot of new products I think the novelty wore off. I once picked up a high end Casio (full size touch sensitive keys) with a battery compartment full of leaking batteries for a couple of £s at the tip.

    I found the Tablehooters site years before, I joined here and had some correspondence with the guy who runs it. Probably the best resource for details on old obscure home keyboards.
     
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    They have a small selection at our Guitar World Music Shops, the kids have moved into the computer-keyboard highbreds, I don't blame them I think a lot of contemporary songs are written on home computers these days.
     
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    I stand corrected, mine was a Casio PT-82 that has the 'rating' system, whereby the keyboard rates how well you've done when using the teacher mode by a visual led score. I need to see if the one I bought at a boot sale is the PT-80 or the PT-82 now!
     
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    Just found a couple of photos I forgot I had, shows both of the keyboards I have at the moment, and a close-up of the ROM cartridge on the Casio, seems I found a replacement PT-82 all along! The other is a Yamaha PSS-80 Portasound, which was the replacement one I got when my original PT-82 went wrong
     
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    Nice, does anybody know how the number system works?

    Casio CZ-101 from 1985, it's much smaller than this photo makes it look, I love the little amplifier that goes with it, I'll have to look for one but I bet most people went for something larger.


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    Found this photo in Billboard 2010 with an interview of Dr Luke, does he like Yamaha better than Casio?


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    From what I remember, when it's teaching you how to play the songs on the ROM pack, once you've finished you press the 'RATING' button and it lights up the LED's up to a certain point, like a score out of 10 kind of thing, dependant on how well the keyboard thinks you did, how well you followed the prompts and whether you pressed the right key or not. So I guess the worse you do, the lower the score and vice versa. My scores were always pretty low, as I suck at playing the keyboard!
     
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    Sorry for the quality, here's another for the Casiotone M-10 from 1982


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