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my two penneths worth....

I think the logo isnt the worst but i think it can be improved upon, especially with that pana egg on it.......

And also i think the site is so quiet because its got hardly any content....I understand thats its new but there was that much content on the old site, it was that content that attracted so many new members (me included 10 years ago)...It was such a rich resource of tech and chat that people looking at it for the 1st time would continually re-visit for info and then join in the chat....

I know that it would be near on impossible to convert the old content to this forum but I think that is the only thing that would get this place buzzing again......

And on a final note hats of to WA for saving this place ......I dont think we could ever make it what it used to be but im sure with more content we would be heading in the right direction

 

I agree with Dave...I think the loss of all the old info might have reduced traffic and new users. I don't think it's anything the owners have done or said, nor is it the logo. It's just a natural effect of the loss. It may pick up in time I guess, my worry is that if I can't find enough to warrant a comment then no one will cos I'll comment on anything lol. Grateful to the owners for saving the place still

 

Is there a facility to tag photos ?

It might simply be me not realising how to do it but last time I posted one I couldn't find one.

Like others have said most of the traffic on the old site was someone typing in a model number
into Google and being directed there.

Recently there was quite a bit of discussion here on the Sony WM22 so I searched for that in Google.

Walkman Central was the top result. Stereo2Go was on the third page of results. Would tags on photos etc help ?

 

Agreed to an extent, there is nothing drawing any boombox lovers to come here.
@walkman archive, with all respect, I'll say it as i see it, if you do't like that, I couldn't care less.

The very first thing I considered when I messaged Paul was the thought of migrating ALL of the content to a new platform. This is not impossible and would not take thousands of euros either if it had been negotiated at the time of leaving the old platform or storing the entire content (indeed as T-STER has said he has done) which is exactly what I would have done BEFORE moving to the new platform.
So this content exists with one of your administrators, make it happen and stop making up excuses about how shit the logo isn't and whatnot. Because making that happens IS the responsibility of the forum admins and owner and not that of the rest of the forum members.

 

I saw a crisis in the boombox community, and I pointed it out. I think the crisis is serious, because in the real world that community is more lively than ever. I wondered why nobody else hadn't noticed (in public at least). I found puzzling that the board hadn't noticed; and I find hard to believe that

Yet the absence of one like AE_Stereo should have risen suspicions. After all, he was one of the newly appointed moderators in the transition from the old platform to the new (he's not anymore one). Even more so, the silence from one of the moderators, NickFish, should have rang a bell. How come that a boombox expert like him -- still a mod, according to his profile -- hasn't been posting since February (but was last seen here on July 28th)?

I believe that these and other signals have been either underestimated or misread. One, in particular, is telling:

Obviously, the new balance depends only marginally on the growth of the Walkman community; for the most part, it depends on the dramatic standstill of the boombox community. Hardly a success for the site: indeed, what's the use of a technically better platform if a whole community stops being active?

When I asked the board to think over the problem, I was answered with my own question:

Words fail me. Other people (notably docs, who may not be diplomatic yet nails the problems at perfection; but also Northerner & davebush) have pointed out very convincing reasons. Reasons that summon the board. Yet the board seems to have no clue:

Trolls and unwanted members? Until confrontation with the real problems is avoided, good intentions, no matter how sincere, won't lead anywhere:

You see, Walkman Archive? In the same passage where you say you're open to suggestions & complaints (ie, about what you should do), you feel the urge to chastise us questioners by pointing out what we should do instead.

Well we're doing something already: we're asking for a change of direction. Of politics. Of attitude. We're asking for concrete measures. We've been doing so since the migration. These are up to the board to take, not to the members. And, incidentally: forums die because they get abandoned; but people won't leave a place where they share a passion without good reasons.

But rather than looking for those reasons -- I should say, rather than paying attention to what has been pointed out time and again --, you keep beating around the bush. You buy time & promise nothing. One only has to read the answer you gave (in June 2017!) to the december 2016 post by deech on the Database thread, to see what I mean:
[Walkman Archve]"I don't know why I haven't received any notifications from this thread... Well, I remember a technician told me it's unsure the exact amount, but knowing the amount of info it will be around 4000$ if I don't remember badly. Pretty high cost, though..."

Better, one has to read the nonanswer you gave to deech's reply to the above, to get a better idea (and deech is another mod who has stopped showing up ever since):
[deech] "Hugo Goodevening. My suggestion is to find this guy fast and start the procedures of bringing the S2GO SITE DATABASE back without wasting time because from what i can understand is that members are vanishing quickly. I can see its a Ghost town here these days"

You may think that I am talking on behalf of a minoritarian part of the community -- the old guard, and possibly just the old boombox fans. Instead, I sincerely believe that I am talking on behalf of the entire community. But I always try to stop and think and put in doubt my own certainties. I may be off-topic after all. Younger members know nothing about the DB and could't care less, yet they keep registering. Hence maybe it's just a new ball game on this site, maybe I do not fit this site anymore. Maybe I'm plainly wrong. If so, forget about this thread, I too like docs give up. But if I'm right --even fractionally so--, I suggest that you stop evading the responsibilities of the board and start finding answers to the problems raised in this thread.

 

Sal, as usual, you explain clearly and eloquently and you are indeed speaking for me as well. Thank you Sal

 

same here Sal, something needs to be done

 

yeah me too...good shout Sal

 

Nice one Sal, hopefully you shed light in a less brutal way than I, which I appreciate can sometimes appear abrasive and borderline but where there is passion there are sometimes fireworks.

 

First up the adim need to listen to what long standing members have to say , Brushing there comments aside is not constructive and will only lead to grief . Securing the database from the old site should of been the first priority before this site began . As we all know the strength of the old forum was it's data and that is what attracts new members .. As for the logo it's a easy fix just add a classic BOOMBOX . As for moderators disappearing there were to many in the first place .

 

There's a fourth option and a fifth, however, what format is the old Database and what format is the new Database?

 

Hello guys.
Without wanting to diminish anything that has been said so far; i though i had better speak up. After the migration i was still a mod and as such i dutifully checked in many times a day to make sure that all was well. As soon as problems cropped up, like spam posts or banned members being reinstated and abusing people, i found that my previously wide ranging abilities to sort things out were severely diminished and all i could do was alert an admin and wait for a response; pretty much the same as every other member. There did not seem to be any point in being a moderator any more, and a few new ones had been appointed anyway. I popped in from time to time to see what trouble Reno was getting into but that's about it.
In addition; in common with the majority of us, I just had more pressing things to be concentrating on for a while. Work and non work stuff had to take priority and the constant temptation to be buying more and more stuff that i just don't need was getting on top of me. I have bought about 3 boxes this year including a lovely time travel Superscope in it's box but they are still in the boxes that they arrived in. I accumulated around 250 boomboxes in about 4 years. I needed help. You guys were not the cure! There are no midlands meetings of Boombox Anonymous for me to attend and though i heard about the UK meet i was pre-booked for that weekend and i am ashamed to say that i only looked at the report from that yesterday when i got my first email notification from this site in months. It looks like a great time was had by all and it proves beyond any doubt that there is an enduring passion and friendship among the collectors that will survive with or without S2Go being a success but if we are to be supplemented or eventually replaced with younger members; the database is vital.
In common with some of you others I would gladly pay in a one off contribution to help to get this done as i can appreciate the monthly payments are not going to do it alone but if i do that; i would expect to be able to do my Moderating job as i used to be able to. I applaud the other guys for trying to get to grips with things and hopefully finding a more cost effective way of getting us back to where we were. I still don't understand how it can cost an arbitrary E4000; 'take it or leave it'. I am not putting more than a few quid a month into an allegedly bottomless pit. I would need guarantees. We all would.
My motivation will return. We have all been there. It didn't help that a couple of supposedly respectable members sold me things that were not as described or took months to send them or they were missing bits that never materialised. I have learned my lesson there.
Guys....please keep the pressure on and the momentum momenting. I am still here and a normal service will be resumed soon (if they will let me) if i don't find a permanent cure.
N

 

Nick...good to see you back....

Docs...I will agree with....

I think we all know someone who is good with computers/coding etc.....If we knew the code of new and old site we could approach our friends and family and look for a way round this 4000 dollar thing...

Cant do much unless we know a little of what wants doing

 

Indeed Dave, all I need to know is the format and details of both DB's and I can then establish if it is something I can have written to sort it.

 

Simply click the Watch Thread button and you will receive an email...




Or Unwatch Thread...



Then we might get some momentum continuing with this and get some answers since noone else seems to know the format of the two databases.

 

If T-Ster has a back-up of the old forum, can't he see what format the data was in? I am no computer geek; more a detective.