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  1. Allan Andersen

    Allan Andersen New Member

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    Hello everyone and thanks for membership.. I found this Philips D-8419 in near mint condition.. Everything works as it should but the cassette deck has problems.. It's runs as it should but the sound is pretty bad.. Very low output from tapes, which is not recorded on it.. Tapes who is recorded on the 8419 plays at normal output, but don't sound as I should. Is has a lot of wow and flutter.. Everything runs as in the tape deck, fast forward, rewind and so..

    I tried to find new belts on the internet, but with no results.. I just have a feeling that's it's not only a belt problem, because of the low playback output on tapes who's recorded on other tape recorders...

    Anyone who has experience with this one? I know it's a plastic machine but it sound pretty good
     

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    Hello :) I've tried to understand what it means in the tread, but I'm not sure that it is wow and flutter which is the problem.. Actually I'm not that strong in cassette problems but a guy here in Denmark told me if the sound from recorded cassettes in the boom box sounded unstable, it could be wow and flutter.. It sound like the treble falls out and comes back if you record a tape in the boom box and you play cassettes in the boom box recorded from my cassette deck in my HiFi system ore artist/fabric tapes, the playback sound is very low...

    I can't explain better than that,, but I really want to get the tape recorder back to full working order, because the boom box means a lot to me because it is full of memory's from my childhood (we got 4 of this Philips model in my kinder garden and I've been searching for one like this ever since and then I found this in near mint for about 20 dollars in a second hand store)
     
  4. Longman

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    Poor treble sounds like misaligned azimuth. You will probably find a screw next to the tape head to adjust it.

    http://www.endino.com/archive/cassettes.html

    There are at least three videos about this on Youtube but were either very technical, badly produced, or both

    The only thing that doesn't add up is that if azimuth is out then it shouldn't affect playback of a recording made on the same deck.
    Could you try that. record something from the radio using the Philips then play it back on the same machine.

    Another possibility is dirty heads. Have you cleaned them ?
     
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    I have tried to clean the heads and tried to record from radio on the Philips. If I record on the Philips the sound level is normal but don't sound clearly,, the sound is rolling like the high tones comes and goes if you can understand what I mean :) It's hard for me to explain it.. If I play a tape recorded on another tape deck or a factory recorded tape the sound level is very low and a bit dark..
     
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    It sounds as if the azimuth is changing as the tape plays. Maybe something (like the head) is loose.

    Does anyone else have any ideas ?
     
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    I've tried to cheek to adjust the head but I can't see anything to adjust :/
     
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    Longman Well-Known Member S2G Supporter

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    Have a look at this

    https://freeservicemanuals.info/en/servicemanuals/viewmanual/Philips/D8418/D8419/None/RADIORECORDER/

    If you click on D8418 to the right of Type a you can download a manual. Hopefully it is similar to your machine.
    At the top of Figure 7 you can see how the heads are mounted with screws and springs. As mentioned in one of the guides it is often necessary to remove parts of the cassette door and put the machine into play to be able to access the adjustment screw. Adjustment is always made with a tape playing, hopefully a known good one.
     
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    I don't think I have the patience to work with it my self.. I'm not that good to work with electronics
     
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    Did you clean the head with isopropyl alcohol? Also clean the capstan and roller.
     
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    Hello and Welcome, Allan! :wavey:
     
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    Hi Allan, I know that some years passed but I have some tips for you (I had a similar model on mi childhood): 1. check the head alignment (i think you can remove the door and adjust using a screw driver) or change the head - you can use a magnifier or phone to zoom - if the are sign of wearing, 2. replace the driving motor, mine had some issues with voltage regulator inside. At the end if you don't want it I'll be more that happy to buy it from you, I had one since I was child now in very bad condition and I'm looking for years to buy another, remembers me of my family.
     

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