Before you blame me for clickbait or something, let me explain: Well buy stuff from eBay or other sources. The situation with the virus is getting critical (in my country, Spain) some cities have closed all schools (from babies to universities) and we're close to quarantine. I realized that these days, when you buy an article from the Internet, specially old gadgets that have been touched by other persons and are sent from other countries (specially china and italy) you have to be very careful when opening and touching it. I suggest to clean it with alcohol and a cloth (putting special care in all the buttons, knobs and controls as well as in those areas used to grab it) and then throw the cloth, just to be careful. You never know... What do you think?
I just read the question and answer at 8.17 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-51847128 It says that the maximum time the virus can survive is a week or less. So if you put things aside for a week on receipt you should be O.K. Given the current situation I am far more concerned about things like door handles in public spaces.
I've always quarantined my boxes, if I'm lucky in the winter I leave them in the cold for a day or so, in the summer I don't have that benefit. I try to open the boxes outside and keep the packaging outside of the house. Besides viruses there's also bugs that may be living in the box.
Info got posted today on my local Malibu Neighbors chatroom, this is a Must-Read!!! If there was a good time to be a "couch potato", listen to music and play with our toys, this would be NOW. I do not want to get blamed for spreading panic but as someone who lived in Kiev when Chernobyl nuclear power plant blew up on April 26, 1986, I tend to have serious doubts about the official news. In 1986 I followed the 'party line', went to the May Day parade, and then continued as if nothing happened. Do not have many choices today: someone in my family has to pay the bills, and that is me. But still, maybe someone can actually follow this advise: "Young and unafraid of the pandemic? Good for you. Now stop killing people" March 11, 2020 I'm a doctor in a major hospital in Western Europe. Watching you Americans (and you, Brits) in these still-early days of the coronavirus pandemic is like watching a familiar horror movie, where the protagonists, yet again, split into pairs or decide to take a tour of a dark basement. The real-life versions of this behavior are pretending this is just a flu; keeping schools open; following through with your holiday travel plans, and going into the office daily. This is what we did in Italy. We were so complacent that even when people with coronavirus symptoms started turning up, we wrote each off as a nasty case of the flu. We kept the economy going, pointed fingers at China and urged tourists to keep traveling. And the majority of us told ourselves and each other: this isn't so bad. We're young, we're fit, we'll be fine even if we catch it. Fast-forward two months, and we are drowning. Statistically speaking—judging by the curve in China—we are not even at the peak yet, but our fatality rate is at over 6 percent, double the known global average. Put aside statistics. Here is how it looks in practice. Most of my childhood friends are now doctors working in north Italy. In Milan, in Bergamo, in Padua, they are having to choose between intubating a 40-year-old with two kids, a 40-year old who is fit and healthy with no co-morbidities, and a 60-year-old with high blood pressure, because they don't have enough beds. In the hallway, meanwhile, there are another 15 people waiting who are already hardly breathing and need oxygen. The army is trying to bring some of them to other regions with helicopters but it's not enough: the flow is just too much, too many people are getting sick at the same time. We are still awaiting the peak of the epidemic in Europe: probably early April for Italy, mid-April for Germany and Switzerland, somewhere around that time for the UK. In the U.S., the infection has only just begun. But until we're past the peak, the only solution is to impose social restrictions. And if your government is hesitating, these restrictions are up to you. Stay put. Do not travel. Cancel that family reunion, the promotion party and the big night out. This really sucks, but these are special times. Don't take risks. Do not go to places where you are more than 20 people in the same room. It's not safe and it's not worth it. But why the urgency, if most people survive? Here's why: Fatality is the wrong yardstick. Catching the virus can mess up your life in many, many more ways than just straight-up killing you. "We are all young"—okay. "Even if we get the bug, we will survive"—fantastic. How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again. Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life. Not to mention having every chance of catching another bug in hospital, while you're being treated or waiting to get checked with an immune system distracted even by the false alarm of an ordinary flu. No travel for leisure or business is worth this risk. Now, odds are, you might catch coronavirus and might not even get symptoms. Great. Good for you. Very bad for everyone else, from your own grandparents to the random older person who got on the subway train a stop or two after you got off. You're fine, you're barely even sneezing or coughing, but you're walking around and you kill a couple of old ladies without even knowing it. Is that fair? You tell me. My personal as well as professional view: we all have a duty to stay put, except for very special reasons, like, you go to work because you work in healthcare, or you have to save a life and bring someone to hospital, or go out to shop for food so you can survive. But when we get to this stage of a pandemic, it's really important not to spread the bug. The only thing that helps is social restriction. Ideally, the government should issue that instruction and provide a financial fallback—compensate business owners, ease the financial load on everyone as much as possible and reduce the incentive of risking your life or the lives of others just to make ends meet. But if your government or company is slow on the uptake, don't be that person. Take responsibility. For all but essential movement, restrict yourself. This is epidemiology 101. It really sucks. It is extreme—but luckily, we don't have pandemics of this violence every year. So sit it out. Stay put. Don't travel. It is absolutely not worth it. It's the civic and moral duty of every person, everywhere, to take part in the global effort to reduce this threat to humanity. To postpone any movement or travel that are not vitally essential, and to spread the disease as little as possible. Have your fun in June, July and August when this—hopefully—is over. Stay safe. Good luck. The author is a senior doctor in a major European hospital. She asked to remain anonymous because she has not been authorized to speak to the press.
It's funny what you say above, i have been catching up with records i bought lately but not have a chance to listen to. One of the albums i bought lately is The Future Sound of Jazz was listening to it today, it was funny when i got to track 11 for a minute i thought i was listening to the radio very spooky. check out the track below R.H.C. feat. Plavka - Move Ya (Born free Coldcut Mix)
I think they might have got the idea from Frankie Goes To Hollywood / Trevor Horn. Back in the 1980s we only had Aids and Nuclear War to worry about
Ha ha yes, Jazz is big and all over the place. I had bought the album because i had heard track 7 by Karma - High Priestress.
I am not worried about stuff receiving from China. I am more worried about mailman himself (herself). The possible virus that came from china/ other countries in mail is already dead BUT the mailman touching the mail is my main concern.
Funny you say that, I had a new record delivered yesterday. I got it of the postman, I put it aside for a while. When I did go and open cardboard box took the record out then took it out of the shrink-wrap, then I threw away the cardboard box / shrink-wrap then went and washed my hands before I took the records out of the sleeve. Overkill maybe, but better safe than sorry.
Yep, same with stuff you get from the grocery, wash you hands after touching it. The virus can live on packages for days.
I am a mailman (in the UK) and we are concerned too! We haven't really been given any protection other than 1 pair of flimsy latex gloves (which lasted all of 10 minutes) and some extra anti bacterial soap in the toilets! Mail volumes have gone through the roof though, what with everyone being stuck at home with more time to order stuff!
The chance of you getting exposure to Corona virus is more at grocery markets or your office than getting from mail. Corona virus can survive outside from few hours to few days. yet those mail packages are safer than your work environment (or my work environment) where other people constantly touching /coughing, sneezing,..... same rule applies to mail recipients. The chance of getting Corona virus from mailman(with all due respect) is higher than a mail that was shipped from Japan 2 weeks ago. It is obvious that same day/ next day delivery raise the risk of exposure to virus from sender. In time we will know more about this virus by conducting more evidence base studies but for now, stay safe, and practice universal precaution and I am very grateful of you and all postal service employees for the great service you provide for all of us.
