Mini Stereos and Cool Car Compo Ads

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  1. Experious

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    No, it doesn't. The turntable is a standard (for Aiwa) 330mm wide, this unit is only 270mm (by 280mm).

    None of the pictures really show it, but the strange looking "Total System Remote Control Keyboard" (they did refrain from making this into an initialism) is the same width and is made to sit directly in front of the system to form a type of control chin like many of the Aiwa tape decks had in this era. You can see in the first pic that the remote sender (reflected off the front of the unit) lines up perfectly with the receiver.

    The speakers include the Acoustic Feedback System (AFBS) that has small microphones in front of the woofers that send back the signal to the amp for comparison with the output. This produces a claimed 30Hz to 21kHz response (although no +/- db range is quoted) and means that speaker A terminals are, in Aiwa style, 5 pin DIN plugs. It is probably worth noting that although the speakers look like flat diaphragm units, the are actually standard cone speakers behind a foam cover.
     
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    They cheated on the speakers, say it isn't so, I had to turn and look at my FH-100W and they are labeled as "SAT" (Super Accustic Turbo), I wonder if they're fake as well, I think most Sony's and maybe AIWA, real square speakers were labeled "APM" (Accurate Pistonic Motion).

    Yea that remote is pretty neat looking and maybe a couple years before remotes were everywhere. I love that it goes against all the standard features of today's remotes.
     
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    They are pretty easy to tell. These are real ones where you can clearly see the speaker diaphragm and square(ish) surrounds.

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    These are the type your FH-100W has. They are often just a cone stuck to the back of the flat diaphragm like this:

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    Some of the more expensive (particularly ES) Sony units had this style of woofer, which was supposed to reduce the overall weight improving response, and can usually be identified by the dust covers over the connection points on the front of the speaker (as in the last example above):

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    If you are interested in more details on these speakers, I recommend reading https://soundoddity.com/blog/about-the-amazing-apm-66es/.

    On fake ones you cannot see the speaker or surround at all, although they usually design the cover to give it a similar "look":

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    The advantage with these (apart from lower cost for the manufacturer of course) is that the cones can easily be repaired of replaced with standard units. The foam covering the front can disintegrate over time though, which leaves them looking like a standard speaker.

    Personally I have found these speakers to be excellent on axis, but start to lose bass quite quickly off axis, although I don't have enough of them to make definitive judgement on that. I might just be used to newer and possibly better speakers.
     
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    Outside of the big Sony's it seems like most of the APM's are tiny, either in boomboxes or Walkman Accessory Speakers and thus don't get the attention of speaker fanatics. It would be neat to see how they compare to cone speakers. Years ago we had a member that loved them, I think they used chamois cloth to rebuild the surrounds by making a mold. It might have been a blog but I think it was here. Now you can find new square surround foam much easier but 20 years ago it was very hard.

    I'm pretty sure Technics had a version, but outside of AIWA, I don't know if anybody else did them.
     
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    AIWA NSX-330 from 1992, these are geting really plasticy looking.


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    TEAC 1992 jumping into the mini-stereo craze


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    Kenwood 1992

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    Yes, a number of the Panasonic boomboxes (am I allowed to call the detachable speaker types that?) had them. A mate of mine had this beauty back in the day.



    Seeing as I have got a bit off track, I will bring it back 'round with the full VX-C27 catalogue!

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    This poster has a ton of cool catalogs but they're all on YouTube, some neat mini's from Pioneer, the Vibration! There's even an 8-track component (maybe for Karaoke?) Most Pioneer Midi's from this time are low-cost but these look like competition to the Sony FH Series.




     
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    Wow, that led me down a rabbit hole to find out what the AC-C7 "Music Tape Accessory" was, looks like it is just a box to store cables and stuff in!

    This has to be the most Japanese ad campaign ever, even though they seem to be going for the "western vibe" with the actors and music. They even have singles of the songs using the pictures from the catalogue, the second being by F.R. David who had the more famous song (at least outside the US) Words.

    Note: Possibly NSFW!
     
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    Oh yea, reminds me of my bootleg Star Blazer's DVDs with the original content including Nova's several panty shots that were cut from the USA Version.
     
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    First you get the money, then you get the car stereo, then you get the girls......
    1984, Diatone, and Mitsubishi, had some crazy killer looking car stereos, it's too bad cars got away from that big opening and went to proprietary openings, this would look so rad in a modern vehicle.
    Thanks Tas66dc


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    another from 1985, big money


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    Or her whole uniform mysteriously disappearing during the Yamato's (Argos') maiden warp! Don't mention the alcoholic doctor! :loldiag:
     
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    When the first wave of anime came over, the biggest was Speed Racer, us kids never thought twice about guys getting mowed over with the "grease" guns. Fun times, I wonder if the JDM has tamed down like the USA Market? I think most of the producers never thought most of this would see much more airtime and a sudden blip would be instant mythology.


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    I would say "no", at least not for the studios big enough to ignore Netflix money.
     
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    Grundig from 1980, what a little beauty!


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    JVC FS from 1997, they had some really small but very nice desktop systems.


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    JVC UX-1 from 1991


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    Now we're talking from 1979, from Toshiba Aurex. For me it's the beautifully designed amp, it looks loud even in the ad.


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