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sanyo big ben sub woofer ??????

sinister - 2009-03-18 15:34

so i just gotta say im very unimpressed Frown there seems to be very lil to no difference in volume with the sub. is it suppose to be like that?

redbenjoe - 2009-03-18 15:39

no --its a remarkable difference --
thats what makes it famous .

so --find out whats not right with yours

sinister - 2009-03-18 15:42

so it should be nite and day right.

redbenjoe - 2009-03-18 15:46

say -- as you turn the variable control up -

about 50 % more power --
which is almost night and day --

also --send a PM to gordie and to vladi --
they both like theirs ALOT

skippy1969 - 2009-03-18 16:01

Yah Sin, there is nothing wrong with your BigBen
It's just "operator error"....... LOLOLOL!!! Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud

sinister - 2009-03-18 16:30

thats enough from the peanut gallery, this is big boy talk here. go play with your Lincoln logs Laugh Out Loud

gluecifer - 2009-03-18 16:45

The difference should be HUGE. The amount of highs in the other speakers should be balanced completely by the superwoofer by adjusting it's separate volume control

With the sub on 75% the sound should be very bassy. I mean VERY. As in I've been listening to mine pretty much exclusively for the last couple of weeks and switched back to my M70 last night to do some recording and the difference was huge, the M70 is missing a lot of the the low end the BigBen outputs, especially at lower volumes. This is very pronounced, and we all know how good the bass response is in the M70. It should, as Hifi Tom says sound like 'hifi bass' not portable bass.

Sounds like somethings amiss dude. She should blow you away with clarity and depth of sound.. only one department she's not big in and thats volume. Hope you can get her sorted Sin rocker.



Rock On.

vladi123456 - 2009-03-18 17:04

Ya, My BigBen is almost as good as M90 - and I don't even turn the bass all the way up!

sinister - 2009-03-18 19:20

that's what i thought. is there a separate amp, maybe that blew out?

masterblaster84 - 2009-03-18 19:24

I agree with the rest, the bass should be very noticeable across the 0 to 10 range on the dial. My Big Ben is very noticeable when I crank up the SuperWoofer but not overwhelming until I start to turn the volume up, on low volume the bass is there but more mild.

- 2009-03-18 20:55

quote:
Originally posted by Gluecifer:
The difference should be HUGE. The amount of highs in the other speakers should be balanced completely by the superwoofer by adjusting it's separate volume control

With the sub on 75% the sound should be very bassy. I mean VERY. As in I've been listening to mine pretty much exclusively for the last couple of weeks and switched back to my M70 last night to do some recording and the difference was huge, the M70 is missing a lot of the the low end the BigBen outputs, especially at lower volumes. This is very pronounced, and we all know how good the bass response is in the M70. It should, as Hifi Tom says sound like 'hifi bass' not portable bass.

Sounds like somethings amiss dude. She should blow you away with clarity and depth of sound.. only one department she's not big in and thats volume. Hope you can get her sorted Sin rocker.



Rock On.


I Agree

SIN, there is a HUGE difference with the sub...something for sure is wrong with yours...crack it open, and fix it and report back to us Big Grin

-gsbadbmr

superduper - 2009-03-18 22:59

Yep, there is a separate amp for the sub and it's a TA7205AP. The non-subwoof outputs are LA4440's. If you're not hearing the bass, it ain't working cause there's no way you would miss it.

quote:
Originally posted by SINISTER:
that's what i thought. is there a separate amp, maybe that blew out?

isolator42 - 2009-03-19 06:18

One assumes this is easy to check: crank the bass a bit & watch that big woofer.
I've never seen one But I'd guess that at higher volumes it should move a fair bit. Even if it doesn't move much to look at, you can check whether the big woofer is working at lower volumes by lightly touching it to feel the cone vibrating.

superduper - 2009-03-19 10:10

No need to... Again, if it's working, the results are unmistakeable.

quote:
Originally posted by isolator42:
One assumes this is easy to check: crank the bass a bit & watch that big woofer.
I've never seen one But I'd guess that at higher volumes it should move a fair bit. Even if it doesn't move much to look at, you can check whether the big woofer is working at lower volumes by lightly touching it to feel the cone vibrating.

moncheeto - 2009-03-19 14:17

you will notice the bass sin really Nod Yes with the sub on i had one here that box can pump,, if you are not hearing anything or maybe a bit too low i would think that you may have several problems bad amp chip, a bad volume pod, or a bad connection somewhere that could cause it to not work correctly Smile..

redbenjoe - 2009-03-19 18:44

no matter what is wrong --

fixing this model is always impossible.

superduper - 2009-03-20 11:35

What!?! Why do you say that? It's a complicated machine and the service manual is pretty thick, I'll grant you that. But NOTHING is impossible.

Oh yeah, and if you find that it's impossible to fix, I'll be glad to take it off your hands... Big Grin

quote:
Originally posted by redbenjoe:
no matter what is wrong --

fixing this model is always impossible.

sinister - 2009-03-20 11:41

no worries norm. tha banjo man is just trying to get me to sell to him Big Grin its back @ the shop getting looked @ now so should have some news shortly Cool

jameswp67 - 2009-03-20 11:46

I agree with all, its a great sounding, bassy machine!

redbenjoe - 2009-03-20 18:02

stormin norman --
sinister is correct - i was goofing about the 'impossible' comment Smile

in fact - if its any of the 3 problems that ramon suggested --
then he will hear and FEEL the bass -- SOON !!!
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other than the kaboom --i know of no other boxes with a variable sub --

or ---does anybody know of any others ??

superduper - 2009-03-21 00:32

How silly of me not to recognize facetiousness and ribbing when I see it. Guess I haven't been hanging around here enough....

thafuzz - 2009-03-21 01:23

other than the kaboom --i know of no other boxes with a variable sub --

or ---does anybody know of any others ?? The Sharp GFs? 777/919/909?

redbenjoe - 2009-03-21 07:02

adam --i dont think that the dials under the grills really are sub-controls ??

they seem ???? to effect everything EXCEPT the bass sound ---

mine is an old gf1000 --perhaps its not operating correctly --

you might be right ?? Confused Smile

jvc.floyd - 2009-03-21 07:19

the gf777 does have subwoofer level controls and they do boost the bass quite a bit ,and they dont affect any other speakers but the middle woofers only.

redbenjoe - 2009-03-21 08:21

Smile
sh1t !!!!!!!! Mad
then mine are both duds Frown Smile

moncheeto - 2009-03-21 10:34

no ira yours is ok its that you do not tinker with it very much or lets say nada Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud

vladi123456 - 2009-03-21 11:24

Ira, I was always surprised you didn't like the GF-777, but this explains Smile You should PRONTO get one of those Smile

sinister - 2009-03-21 11:26

can we say

OPERATOR ERROR Laugh Out Loud

vladi123456 - 2009-03-21 12:01

quote:
Originally posted by SINISTER:
can we say

OPERATOR ERROR Laugh Out Loud


Ya, error big time - Ira sold his GF-777 - really cheap. He thought it didn't have enough bass Laugh Out Loud Smile

redbenjoe - 2009-03-21 12:22

WRONG !!!!
i NEVER sell anything for CHEAP Big Grin

in the meantime -- this is SO off-topic.
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SIN -- did you get your big ben sub fixed yet ??
how .... .. ..... ?
Smile

sinister - 2009-03-21 12:34

its in the shop right now getting looked @

redbenjoe - 2009-03-21 13:05

well - while you are awaiting the repair --
and jonesing for some some subs Big Grin

just flip on your kaboom-
which is 3 times better than the big ben anyway !!
Smile Smile

vladi123456 - 2009-03-21 14:07

Ira, even if you build a whole wall of kabooms - they all won't match ONE BigBen operating at half volume - I think you're just jealous Big Grin

redbenjoe - 2009-03-21 14:17

i think you dont even have a kaboom, vladi
Frown Big Grin

sinister - 2009-03-21 14:32

ok kids..... to me its apples and oranges the kaboom is a different box, but is still great. as for the bigben we'll just wait........ Tap Toes

vladi123456 - 2009-03-21 14:46

Actually - I don't have a kaboom - even though I've always liked them.. When I move to a bigger house - I'll expand my collection some more!

redbenjoe - 2009-03-21 14:49

vladi !!!!

wake up --
this is the NINETYS -- get hip -
you NEED a kaboom Big Grin

any member without a kaboom is both
under-privaledged and under-powered Smile

vladi123456 - 2009-03-21 15:27

I think Panasonic Cobra would be my next egg purchase - but only after I find me a Sharp 939 Big Grin

sinister - 2009-03-29 16:20

does anyone know what ohm the sub is. the rest of them are 4 so the sub should be 4 right.

sinister - 2009-04-15 18:40

imma believer!!!!

masterblaster84 - 2009-04-15 18:41

Did you get it rumbling Sin?
Cool

sinister - 2009-04-15 18:49

yeah man. she's boomin right now. she was a train wreck!!!!!

masterblaster84 - 2009-04-15 20:47

Very cool Sinister. Cool

The Big Ben is one box I'm not getting rid of, they look to cool and sound great. Sounds like your warming up to it now. Nod Yes

redbenjoe - 2009-04-15 21:22

hey sin -- you must have suspected that a dozen fine s2g posters could not ALL be wrong at the same time on this same thread !!

glad you stayed with it Smile

sinister - 2009-04-15 21:25

well i knew you were wrong......... Big Grin

redbenjoe - 2009-04-15 21:47

Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud
mostly -- but not THIS time Smile