Schematic / Wiring Diagram
rockit - 2011-10-03 06:38
Good day to all. I initially posted this request in the general chat forum to no avail. I used to lurk around on this site many moons ago and consequently had an opportunity to learn much about numerous boomboxes. When I last logged in again recently after a relatively long hiatus, I quickly came to realize that the format had changed significantly including the fact that I no longer had any access to my previous messages; As a result, I unfortunately have lost access to the few contacts with whom I had conducted some exchanges. My issue currently is that I acquired a Conion C100F unit which requires some work and am in need of the "elusive" schematic. Some people are even claiming that such a document does not even exist which I know is not accurate; Once upon a time I can distincly recall a thread where this wiring diagram was being discussed. I am willing to reimburse someone for their time and associated cost as is necessary. If anyone here can lend a helping hand it would be greatly appreciated. I am looking forward to your insights. Be Well & Best Regards.
radio.raheem - 2011-10-03 11:50
I remember now...there is only one member i know with this scematic....his name is kittmaster...so good luck with that...from what i remember the diagrams arn't much help eather..I dont know if he is here anymore..but you have a lead...
rockit - 2011-10-03 14:50
Thank You Very Much for this lead, I do genuinely appreciate it Be Well1
radio.raheem - 2011-10-03 17:44
your welcome...like i say i don't know if he is active anymore but good luck
redbenjoe - 2011-10-03 18:55
try this seller -
he has listed 100's of manuals this year
SANYO #M 7770K CASSETTE-CORDER SERVICE MANUAL
rockit - 2011-10-03 19:18
Hello again. Thank You for the heads up - I just send the seller a message; Am hoping that I get an affirmative!
rockit - 2011-10-04 11:42
Hello again. Well, he eBay seller did respond and no luck Back to being Sherlock....
chris69 - 2011-10-05 16:09
Hello again. Well, he eBay seller did respond and no luck Back to being Sherlock....
kittmaster - 2011-10-06 05:37
metad - 2011-10-06 06:26
Perhaps that was a secret mission, and schematics were stolen by James Bond from the Coney Onkyo factory
kittmaster - 2011-10-06 06:41
rockit - 2011-10-06 06:45
Well, okay I suppose. Thanx for confirming that you do indeed have the schematic but that they are unfortunately "secret". Seems like an interesting paradox as to how people are sworn to absolutely not reciprocate despite the fact of the enormous assistance it could provide not just to me but many others who want to keep these wonderful systems running. Based on Metad's reply, I do wonder if they were actually stolen in some act of subterfuge otherwise what purpose would it serve to not utilize it for mutual benefit, especially in this community. If my tech can't repair it then I may have to scrap the unit.
redbenjoe - 2011-10-06 07:14
hi chris - good to hear from you
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and rockit-
dont scrap it -
if your line-in works -
then rig ( velcro ) a good old ( metal antenna ) sony or panny am/fm RECORDING walkman to it-
and you will have a radio & a deck
and a great looking box
rockit - 2011-10-06 07:20
There is absolutely no sound coming through this monster.........
redbenjoe - 2011-10-06 07:26
nothing from the ext. speakers jacks ? or the phone jack ?
or with batteries ?
kittmaster - 2011-10-06 07:43
metad - 2011-10-06 07:44
If my tech can't repair it then I may have to scrap the unit.
Good technician could help you without diagram.
If the amp chip is faulty, no worry, there are still plenty of them,
just google HA-1392 by Hitachi.
Give it a try.
rockit - 2011-10-06 08:41
I never alluded nor implied that the information in question was actually stolen; Given these specific circumstances outlined, I simply postulated if this scenario of illicit appropiation was indeed feasible based on the comment of another fellow member since (in my very humble opinion) the logic being extended as to the absolute inaccessability to this schematic is just insoluable. Unlike you, I will also not proceed in judgement of your unequivocal decision by equating relative dispersion on the merits of my technician; He is probably someone you all know anyway and is a gifted individual in these matters. The only arguement of any merit here would have to be based soley on economics; i.e. I will not share this wiring diagram due to the fact that I spend so much time scanning as well as other associated costs and expect to be remunerated accordingly. Yet again, my prerogative is not to want in any way to compel an individual against their will. However, this is tantamount to the apathy commonly witnessed every day with people driving by a stranded motorist who needs a tire iron for a flat and hundreds, if not thousands, merely pass on by. Self defeating, to say the least.
redbenjoe - 2011-10-06 09:02
how about --skip all this BS-
1000s of boxes get fixed w/o diagrams..
take it NOW to a tech-
with luck -- you might get an easy// immediate repair
kittmaster - 2011-10-06 09:05
metad - 2011-10-06 09:27
rockit - 2011-10-06 10:02
Well, this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt as to just how ignorant I really am. Who dares say that the world of BoomBoxes is not filled with such intrigue and machinations. Absolutely fascinating. Otherwise, why not literally take something like this to the
grave - With no exceptions that is. I'm willing to bet my very last dollar that if you had to trade all that documentation for some medicine to cure a disease for either yourself or a loved one you wouldn't even have time to think of the answer......
kittmaster - 2011-10-06 10:21
rockit - 2011-10-06 12:21
The only certainty that remains here is that, yes, I don't truly know who you are as a person. Unless you failed to acknowledge as such, I overtly made it a point to iterate that I respected your decision without any reservation whatsoever. Whether it is warranted entails an evolved polemic. I may not have accrued any merit or seniority on this forum with my status but that fails to address the core issue. You may have interpretted my reply as somewhat "unorthodox" but it was leveled by design to emphasize what I believe to be the radical stance adopted here. A schematic is far from life and death with the latter being the only certain absolute. There is a certain degree of inherent irony where one is exclusively entitled yet the community at large is excluded especially when this forum is apparently intended for further enlightenment, sharing, kinship, etc. If the document in question is not to be made public then so be it. However, for someone like myself, there has to be some relatively valid reason. No society nor individual has ever benefitted from either arbitrary nor autocratic notions pertaining to the control of knowledge; Just ask your local religious leader to confirm how convinient it once was to keep everyone illiterate because of dogma..... An extremist view would mandate that it is utterly immoral to compound with silence a misguided judgement. I will only concur that this thread has spun way beyond its scope. I will not further bore anyone with my mind numbing insight. Regret not your contribution to this diatribe. Moreover, please do try to understand why I wrote what I did. My motivation is sincere. These types of episodes reproduce themselves every single day in life and are left to breed toxic complacency and needless waste. The paralell is far drawn yet nonetheless brutally accurate. Be Well & Best Regards
chris69 - 2011-10-06 18:35
chris69 - 2011-10-06 18:37
The only certainty that remains here is that, yes, I don't truly know who you are as a person. Unless you failed to acknowledge as such, I overtly made it a point to iterate that I respected your decision without any reservation whatsoever. Whether it is warranted entails an evolved polemic. I may not have accrued any merit or seniority on this forum with my status but that fails to address the core issue. You may have interpretted my reply as somewhat "unorthodox" but it was leveled by design to emphasize what I believe to be the radical stance adopted here. A schematic is far from life and death with the latter being the only certain absolute. There is a certain degree of inherent irony where one is exclusively entitled yet the community at large is excluded especially when this forum is apparently intended for further enlightenment, sharing, kinship, etc. If the document in question is not to be made public then so be it. However, for someone like myself, there has to be some relatively valid reason. No society nor individual has ever benefitted from either arbitrary nor autocratic notions pertaining to the control of knowledge; Just ask your local religious leader to confirm how convinient it once was to keep everyone illiterate because of dogma..... An extremist view would mandate that it is utterly immoral to compound with silence a misguided judgement. I will only concur that this thread has spun way beyond its scope. I will not further bore anyone with my mind numbing insight. Regret not your contribution to this diatribe. Moreover, please do try to understand why I wrote what I did. My motivation is sincere. These types of episodes reproduce themselves every single day in life and are left to breed toxic complacency and needless waste. The paralell is far drawn yet nonetheless brutally accurate. Be Well & Best Regards
chris69 - 2011-10-06 18:48
Perhaps that was a secret mission, and schematics were stolen by James Bond from the Coney Onkyo factory
WOW; old stuff geting older, this Conion C-100F - Not being manufactured anymore. No Spare parts available through the orignal manufacturer. Population getting larger ever expanding, Conion C-100F Boombox's with Main source being the Cassette, having Two cassette decks, decreasing in Numbers of finding one of these in full working condition, with More Problems needing solving repairing these as the parts available decrease in time - and then discover that very few people have this information in a website devoted primarely the the worship of cassette operated machine's reproducing analogue sound as it is produced and heard from the machines manufactured in the past and NoT much anymore if not ever again in the Mainstream of electronics the pleasure derived from these machine's to the respective owners of these machines that operate in this format. Then somebody or nobody desires information about the inner workings of a item that is no longer made that is out there, & protected by an oath of secrecy - that nobody can fathom, in this Niche website. WOW
rockit - 2011-10-06 20:59
Amen! Almost similar to the nuances involved with a fraternal order of Freemason clerics given the esoteric nature of the dealings associated to this exotic parchment.....
redbenjoe - 2011-10-06 22:17
rockit ????
you sure do talk better than you listen -
kittmaster offered to HELP YOU !!
others here have also offered advice..
do you want to get your box fixed ?
or ... continue to unveil your entire vocabulary ??
rockit - 2011-10-07 07:33
I never stated that many people here were not willing to help. And, I am flattered by that collaboration. However, if my tech (regardless of his degree of aptitude versus some experts here) needs a schematic then I don't believe that this was an unreasonable request. If my objetive is to try and save some money by minimizing the time involved for the repair what exactly is the expection now - That I act as an intermediary relaying questions and answers between the forum and my tech?
rockit - 2011-10-07 07:35
Incidentally, does anyone here really think that my intention was to have this topic digress into a philosophical debate?
kittmaster - 2011-10-07 07:58
metad - 2011-10-07 08:26
What an interesting thing!
redbenjoe is always in the epicenter of the battle.
he has crapped this forum a lot of times on the other site, and declared not to contribute on here again...
but now he has smelled the trouble, and what we can see: he is right here, right now, and having fun again.
chris69 - 2011-10-07 09:27
redbenjoe - 2011-10-07 12:11
he metad -
you need to get a life or a wife or a beer...relax...enjoy the site..
or run away and hide , again