12W X 2? sounds like it will be pretty weak.
A c-100f is 28 watts total so 24 is pretty sweet,The c-100f has 2 ha1392 amps which are about 14 watts each.....The tweeters have to be good on the lasonic for it to sound loud..
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Originally posted by jimski:
The tweeters have to be good on the lasonic for it to sound loud..
It damn well better be! And they better be real tweeters too 'cause the 2nd next thing I'd do after gettin' one home is open it up!
March seems so far away, but at least it gives me time to scrape together enough doe for both colors. Still, I'll keep my eyes on the Lasonic website 'cause the release date may be subject to change.
If anyone ever listens to C-net's MP3 Insider podcast,co host Donald Bell remarked that the I931 is his favorite new item at this years CES show.The most recent cast is a 20 minute overview of some of the new portable audio products (mostly MP3 related,of course) shown in Las Vegas.If you run the show up to the 5:25 point he says a few words about the new Lasonic.Interestingly he refers to it as most probably being all flash and no substance.He also comments that he is assuming it to be just a "plastic polished
t*rd " (sheez,I hate that word
) .I wasn't aware that this term to describe some of the newer elongated egg shaped boxes was commonly used outside our forum.He also says the sight of it takes him back to his break dancing roots.I have to wonder if he is one of our stealth members here.
seems liek it would be better than using a ipod dock.
for teh pric eof 169 does seem to be a lil to good to be true, or if teh box is 169, will it deleiver as much fire power as the old school models?
i'm gonna keep a eye out ,hopefully i can see one in person one of these days.
the only question is what shops would carry em?
best buy ,circuit city or like it was back in teh day, swapmeets and small electronic store?
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-14 13:48
Fry's carries some Lasonic products so maybe they will stock it. I have two Fry's local to me so I'm hoping so.
charlesdickens - 2008-01-15 11:08
Who knows. Maybe the apple store will carry it. They sell every other ipod related device.
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-15 13:09
My gut tells me (I talk to it often) that there will be a lot of resistance from retailers to carry the I931. I get this feeling from some of the reviewers who cared enough to mention the I931 from CES and some of the comments on blogs from people who think the old boxes are a joke. I'm not talking about the Boombox afficionados like ourselves.
We know different and how cool it is but will retailers give it a shot? I hope so!
charlesdickens - 2008-01-16 07:29
Here are some new pics!
First White from a slightly different angle:
They look like real tweaters to me!!!
And now BLING BLING!!!
If you look closely the pattern appears to be the Famous Stars and Straps logo. (below)
If a big company is behind it thats a good sign!
EDIT:
Yup it's official.
charlesdickens - 2008-01-16 08:12
YEEESSS!!!! NIIIICE!
The girl holdin' the box is hot, but that design is wack as far as the box goes!
charlesdickens - 2008-01-16 14:24
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Originally posted by MONOLITHIC:
The girl holdin' the box is hot, but that design is wack as far as the box goes!
Ha! Yeah, they are a bit late on with the all-over-print.
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Originally posted by CharlesDickens:
Here are some new pics!
First White from a slightly different angle:
They look like real tweaters to me!!!
So do the ones on my old 920T,but they are fake.They would fool anyone from the front!Ever since the late '80s,the desire to skimp on drivers and rely on equalization has just been too tempting to the manufacturers.The result is compromised bass and highs at high volume levels,if the boxes will even go that loud.At lower volume,they sound fine.This is why I am increasingly using the term "blaster" to describe the 4 driver old school boxes.The I931 must at least match the performance of the best version classic TRC-931 or it will disappoint.I hope it was Lasonic's intention to bring back the old school in sound as well as the style.I'll be holding my breath till someone actually opens one of the new Lasonic to find out the truth!
My opinion on this whole Lasonic bringing back the boombox(blaster).Is.Most of us would agree that Lasonic was never a quality manufacturer of boomboxes.
However they're the only company that is listening to Boombox aficionados and they deserve a THANKS.
How many other companies have listened to us?
We should all send the other manufacturers a message by supporting the Lasonic project.Does anyone here think the other manufacturers aren't watching closely? The problem is they will need numbers to convince there respective companies to invest in PROJECTS.
Lasonic however has taken the risk,without numbers,certainty or guarantees.Simply put they have researched the potential market and decided to be the pioneers of a new Boombox era.Lasonic has become the Guinea Pig for the big boys.
If we don't support them we will probably never have another shot at being taken seriously by Lasonic or others.
You want JVC,PANASONIC,HITACHI,TOSHIBA,SONY, SHARP and others to follow Lasonic,then you must support the Lasonic project.
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-17 06:59
Nelson, Wise words and I for one will support Lasonic just like many other members here. The big question is how will the general public respond to Lasonics offering? Unfortunately econimic times aren't the best but I'm hopeful Lasonic will receive a big response.
Quoting.Married with Children.If you build it they will come.
With so many Bbxs in commercials today I think they will sell.
Programs targeting the younger generation have seen an Influx of boomboxes I see at least 1 per day on TV SHOWS,commercial and music videos.Even Keke Palmers video has 1 in it.Looks like a Toshiba.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrkbP-DpKJwi think the i 931 will stand out from the crowd ,i mean for 149 bucks you cant lose hell i buy one and i dont even own an i pod ,imagine that box next to and egg on the shelf ,i think even a cave man could figure that out ,most likely would grab the lasonic.
You hit it right on the nose JVCFLOYD.Compared to all those eggs out there it will surely stand out from the rest of the crowd
no body else seems to care about even making the attempt at an old skool looking box so i would buy one just to show the other manufacturers what there missing out on.a lot of people might laught at the i931 for a while but it could lead to better designs by lasonic later on if it does well.
plus if they crap out the ones they did make will be collectable some day.
nelsong9696-Those ARE very wise words.The fact of the matter is that I WILL buy one of these when they come out.Perhaps my concerns should have been voiced before the I931 went into production (which I would assume is happening as we speak).It's too late for them to change anything for the initial release.What we get is what we get.
As for the quality,If the majors follow in Lasonics footsteps I'm sure the build of their units will be on par with the I931,or at least close to it.I'm not expecting JVC M70 build quality to return except in a niche high end production.Those would be quite expensive but I feel their would be a market.
The I931 looks quite good in pictures.Even the white is growing on me.Personally,I have always liked the look of the rounded remakes though the older ones are better looking.I'm just hoping for a docking station template to fit my new Ipod Touch.The Touch is like something out of the future.It still freaks me out when I mess with it!
charlesdickens - 2008-01-17 11:34
Jovie, good point about the new iPods. I have the new Nano and it seems like it would be an awkward fit. Apparently though, our new iPods wont even work until Lasoinc purchases a license or something. Hmmmmm???
As far as the box ever bein' popular is concerned... Let it pop up in a few music videos and watch what happens. For example, remember the beginning of 50 Cent's "P.I.M.P." video when he was fiddlin' around with the iPod? Or you started seein' other singers, rappers and whoever make it a prop in their video like they did with Bentleys, Escalades and 1964 Chevrolet Impalas? If it didn't get your attention before, it certainly did when you spotted somebody with one on TV. That's how people are gonna feel when (and not if 'cause it will happen) the new Lasonic hits the small screen.
As an iPod docking device, the Lasonic has an immediate advantage: SIZE! So far, everybody's been makin' those small-ass units with their 4-inches and under full-range speakers. The sound of the Lasonic may not wind up being as crisp as some of those units, but dollar for dollar (at 149 bucks), it'll surely blow anything away in its price range. Think about it...If you're a kid with an iPod but no stereo system, you're gonna go for the loudest thing you can get your hands on.
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but dollar for dollar (at 149 bucks), it'll surely blow anything away in its price range. Think about it...If you're a kid with an iPod but no stereo system, you're gonna go for the loudest thing you can get your hands on.
Yo, u hit the nail in the coffin that time
its exactly the way i thought they would do this. i have always thought they would be sub 200 dollars. i kind of think its smart on lasonics behalf.
if only jvc would look and listen and learn from this.
i mean even being able to buy a brand new sans tape deck ipod dock station m90 for the price of a kaboom would be a pretty good bet for jvc. it might not be exactly the same but if lasonic could do it so could jvc sharp or whoever else for that matter.
i do think without a doubt tho this will affect some of the prices of vintage boomboxes. not so much the really hi end stuff but i do think it will affect the vintage lasonic prices for sure. i mean its not like a kid with three or for hundred bucks to burn is going to buy a real one. collectors still might but i do anticipate a drop in some of older lasonic stuff. its a good thing for the scene tho i think. allthough i think lasonic waited too long for this to come out. i mean the eighties revival thing is over. however the boombox is a will remain a iconic symbol of electro and bboy culture wich is going through a roots renasience of sorts i suppose. dunno whats going to play out with it all but its a reall good thing.
i like the customisation idea of it all too a very smart plan i think. very cool very very cool indeed. and yes they are the price they should be. they look cool and i am sure they sound pretty good but they arent super hi quality.
who cares about that tho its the idea of it all. i mean it really is a nice thing to see.
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Originally posted by *TPR*:
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As far as the box ever bein' popular is concerned... Let it pop up in a few music videos and watch what happens
true -do you remember what happened to the madonna box?
http://cgi.ebay.com/FAMOUS-VELA-DISCO-LITE-1980s-BOOMBO...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Bein' as tho the Lasonic i931 is a brand new box (but a direct descendant to the TRC-931), it should hopefully sell itself. The eBay sellers, however, are gonna pull out every name in the hat when it shows up on TV.
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Originally posted by *TPR*:
quote:
As far as the box ever bein' popular is concerned... Let it pop up in a few music videos and watch what happens
true -do you remember what happened to the madonna box?
THIS is what happened to the madonna box:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item...=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007-gsbadbmr
There's been a whole lotta "Madonna boxes" as of late. Maybe they shouldn't call 'em Discolites anymore.
That box definitely ain't worth $1000! It's barely worth $250! And bein' as tho the sound sucks...
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-20 14:10
A discolite for $1000??? No way!
Monolithic is correct that this is lucky to be a $250 box and only because of Madonna and the uniqueness of the box because of the lights.
I'd only pay $250 if the box was mint. Still, the first thing I'd toss are the speakers. I wouldn't wanna subject anybodys ears to those horrible sounding things!
"Wow, that's a great lookin' box!..." Under their breath,
"Too bad it sounds like sh*t!" quote:
Originally posted by billpc55:
its exactly the way i thought they would do this. i have always thought they would be sub 200 dollars. i kind of think its smart on lasonics behalf.
if only jvc would look and listen and learn from this.
i mean even being able to buy a brand new sans tape deck ipod dock station m90 for the price of a kaboom would be a pretty good bet for jvc. it might not be exactly the same but if lasonic could do it so could jvc sharp or whoever else for that matter.
i do think without a doubt tho this will affect some of the prices of vintage boomboxes. not so much the really hi end stuff but i do think it will affect the vintage lasonic prices for sure. i mean its not like a kid with three or for hundred bucks to burn is going to buy a real one. collectors still might but i do anticipate a drop in some of older lasonic stuff. its a good thing for the scene tho i think. allthough i think lasonic waited too long for this to come out. i mean the eighties revival thing is over. however the boombox is a will remain a iconic symbol of electro and bboy culture wich is going through a roots renasience of sorts i suppose. dunno whats going to play out with it all but its a reall good thing.
i like the customisation idea of it all too a very smart plan i think. very cool very very cool indeed. and yes they are the price they should be. they look cool and i am sure they sound pretty good but they arent super hi quality.
who cares about that tho its the idea of it all. i mean it really is a nice thing to see.
I don't know much about the M90 to really comment on it. However, if they made a limited edition high quality reissue (of 90 - get it?
) with updated parts, gold plated connections and whatnot and sold it only thru the JVC website for $900 (with a 1 box per person rule), I'd beg, borrow and/or steal to cop one!
On another note, I wonder if Lasonic has spies on stereo2go. If I were part of
"The Powers That Be" at Lasonic, I know I certainly would.
On another note, pt. 2... Imagine if somebody bought the makers of Conion and reissued the C-100F in black! I hope the "spies" read my words!
oh yeah man i totaly think lasonic and some of the other manufactuers have market researchers who have checked this site out.
i mean one thing wich is good is the lasonic is so affordable. i mean i am sure that there is many people who think the lasonics have always been junk. i mean lets face it they arent ultra high quality and never have been.
however i do believe that alot of people kind of miss the idea of a lot of things.
i mean i was reading the lasonic is gonna have a video out on it for the ipod. i think thats what it said and alot of people will buy it for that as well.
i mean it seems to be a pretty cool device with some forwards backwards thinking.
i mean i dont want to get all crazy but we are kind of entering that time now that futurists spoke about.
that time being where old world design will fuse with modern world technologies. its a very interesting thing to see some devices coming into the picture of actual production models now.
its a good thing. i mean its happening with many things.cars such as the new challenger and the mustang taking direct cues from the past.
its really nice to see some of these things happening.
while i do think the eighties revival is dead what it has laid the ground work for is new directions in many forms of music.
i mean people have suddenly realised they can get more mileage out of alot of the old ways of recording stuff back from the early days of electro and hip hop music.
i mean there is a huge resurgance of old school instruments again.
the whole use a computer for everything idea is kind of waffling out now.
i mean people are bored of a mouse and a click doing everything.
its a cool thing and if enough of these new lasonics get sold who knows what it could spawn. i mean dont get me wrong i do not think it will ever be completely mainstream again,but
i dont want it to be either.
i guess the way i see it is a bit different from many people.
i mean for me the boombox is a symbol of urban music culture. wheather electro hip hop or what ever sub genre it is there is a direct tie to it.
i for one think the idea of having boomboxes like this new lasonic is a great one.
the role of the ipod has changed from just being a novel way to listen to music as being the way music will be tangebily delivered now.
people may not like it but its here to stay. it is the new music industry.
while i do still prefer vinyl records and think they sound better i think that mp3 players are fine for listening too.
i mean i do miss the era of records and cassettes.
its not coming back to the masses tho.
this lasonic is exactly what it should be.
cheap smart and nice looking. i am sure it will be fairly loud too.
i do wonder tho what this will do for the prices of original lasonics tho.
i just cannot see a kid running to ebay to buy a original for three hundred bucks when they can get two new ones for the same price. its just not going to happen.
i also wonder how it will affect the values in general.
i mean it is pretty much what most people desire in terms of its aestetics.
most people i am not talking about purists or collectors. regular people see this as the shape of a boombox.
i think at 169 it will also draw a fair amount of impulse shoppers. they can just grab it off a shelf and bobs your uncle.
this is a important product for this site some may not like it however, it conclusively shows that there is still a lot of people out there who want boomboxes.
i mean i think its the way things needed to evolve. where they evolve from this will be interesting.
i mean even if a small specialist company decided to they could capitise on it.
some people might say its not real beacuase it hasnt got a tape deck.
for me tho this is just a great boombox i would for sure grab one of them when they come out up here.
i dont think if jvc released a modern m90 it would sell for much more than a kaboom.
we have to face reality it would most likely have a digital tuner. no shortwave and no cassette deck.
it would also sound slightly different beacause of modern amp technology. who cares tho really it would still look a lot like the original. be brand new and cost 300 dollars tops.
i mean people cant afford a real one anymore anyways. well most people and the luck involved in finding one is just running against you.
so yeah bring it on i say however we must face reality. allthough this site has so many members there really is just a tiny sliver of the world represented here.
however the fact is that several hundred million boomboxes over the years have been sold.
alot of them served very well and lasted for a very long time.
for someone living in a apartment or small dwelling its the best solution for a home stereo. as i say people arent going to walk around with a pair of earbuds in forever.
its a exciting moment without a doubt
one other thing i would add. is this
if musical instrument amplification manufacuers could only make some small pas wich looked like old school boomboxes it would make many musicians very happy indeed. i mean how cool would that be to have a huge boombox for your pa. i mean five hundred watts twice the size of a m90 out front of your rig
panasonic.fan - 2008-01-22 10:04
I don't know, the way you put it, it's just a cheap piece of plastic that may sell well for $169, has an iPod dock, and makes noise.
I'm sorry, I want more. I expect more. It's just going to be another version of a cheapoblaster.....
I mean, regardless of what it looks like on the outside, aren't there enough crap radios being made these days?
I'd much rather see a new version of the JVC PC-100 mini-blaster with an iPod dock and a USB port. That thing was built like a tank with astounding sound for it's size.
I'd take that any day over this, UNLESS Lasonic actually took some time to resolve the sound deficiencies of the model this is based off of.
Lasonic should have re-released a version of their best boombox of all time...the TRC-920...it's amazing looking, and an amazing sounding TANK
-gsbadbmr
Good read Bill....
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Originally posted by gsbadbmr:
Lasonic should have re-released a version of their best boombox of all time...the TRC-920...it's amazing looking, and an amazing sounding TANK
-gsbadbmr
quote:
Originally posted by Panasonic Fan:
I don't know, the way you put it, it's just a cheap piece of plastic that may sell well for $169, has an iPod dock, and makes noise.
I'm sorry, I want more. I expect more. It's just going to be another version of a cheapoblaster.....
it is a cheap piece of plastic with speakers and a ipod dock. i mean i kind of think of the original ones as being that way too. i mean dont get me wrong it is what it is. and many of the boomboxes people collect arent collected beacause they sound completely awesome.
i cannot remember exactly how much the original lasonics sold for however i dont think they were much different in price from the new ones. i could be wrong. the average kid back around when they were new couldnt afford a high end jvc or more expensive boombox.
i think they are exactly priced where they should be. i mean a kid showing up at a skate park with one of those new ones is going to have lots of friends even if it isnt perfect.
its a cool thing and its not about it being perfect sonicaly.
yep theres a lot of crap radios and well some people would consider the original lasonics crap too. been a hella long time since i heard one so i dont know.
i mean there is a millions things they coulda shoulda woulda done differently.
the fact is tho they did and that is what matters i think.
i am going to snag one when it comes out if i can get one up here. if not i hope someone here will help me out to get one up here. i have a feeling i wont be able to find one on a shelf up here lasonics are more than a rarity up here. i mean i remember going with a friend to seatle back in the day to get his. he was the only kid in school with one. all the other kids had jvcs for the most part. i mean jvc is super popular here in canada. i dont know i think they had a north american wharehouse here at one point maybe even a factory i cant remember it.
form over substance is always something wich is annoying. however i still say that as long as it is loud people will like it even if its boxy sounding or if it breaks up at high volumes.
its a good thing for the portable stereo industry. as long as there is other manufactuers trying to better one another it very well could lead to better models by other makers.
nuthin wrong with that.
if all you have is a 169 dollars in your pocket to spend and you need something to play your ipod through or something to take to the beach or camping or whatever.
this is the coolest ticket in town. i mean the ipod docks we have had over the last few years in this price range all have had terrible sound quality. bad aestetics and well for the most part questionable build.
in this price range its awesome.
I mean, regardless of what it looks like on the outside, aren't there enough crap radios being made these days?
I'd much rather see a new version of the JVC PC-100 mini-blaster with an iPod dock and a USB port. That thing was built like a tank with astounding sound for it's size.
I'd take that any day over this, UNLESS Lasonic actually took some time to resolve the sound deficiencies of the model this is based off of.
Lord help me, I'm just a poor, miserable sinner & I want one of these.
I wonder how I'll be able to get one in the UK?
It's so far OTT in the looks dept, it might appal my wife so much that she starts liking the M90.
As for a new generation of buyers?
I showed my 9 year-old son (iPod owner) & my 7 year-old daughter pics of this.
Unprompted, they replied, wide-eyed & in unison:
"cool!"
...nuff said.
charlesdickens - 2008-01-23 06:44
quote:
Originally posted by isolator42:
As for a new generation of buyers?
I showed my 9 year-old son (iPod owner) & my 7 year-old daughter pics of this.
Unprompted, they replied, wide-eyed & in unison:
"cool!"
...nuff said.
Your kids are awesome!
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-23 08:49
quote:
As for a new generation of buyers?
I showed my 9 year-old son (iPod owner) & my 7 year-old daughter pics of this.
Unprompted, they replied, wide-eyed & in unison:
"cool!"
...nuff said.
Hmmm, makes you kind of wonder if the current generation of kids aren't ready to revive the big boombox. History and trends tend to repeat themselves so maybe big boomboxes are ready for their repeat performance.
We can only hope!
As I have said,obviously what we get is what we get at this point.Somewhere in this forum it was mentioned that the late 90s reissue of the 931 had slightly better bass than the original.This of course was when they rounded the corners of its cabinet also.As I'm thinking it might share the same shell,I'm hopeful that this new one will at least be built to the standards of that reissued version.A lot of highs,even bad highs,have always been important to me but I'm not expecting that.Hopefully I am wrong.Should we end up with a unit with single full range drivers,perhaps someone here could come up with a mod to get proper tweeters installed.BTW-Didn't someone say this new version could run on "C" cell batteries?
There's probably as much speculation being written here as anywhere on the internet.It would be great if Lasonic could either give us a little more info or provide an example to someone here for a review.We are the foremost boombox forum on the internet and I am speaking of "in the world".
i will be listening to the box before i buy one ,it has to at least sound decent but and loud ,i am hoping they re use some of their old component design ,then at least there is a new source for hard to find electronic parts for the older 935 units ,such as the amps and speakers ,maybe even take some of the i pod technolgy from the i 935 and make a newer trc 935 version at home combining the best traits of each ,i think those eq pre sets suck ,deffo hate those things.
charlesdickens - 2008-01-23 17:15
I just wrote Lasonic a long email explaining who we are and letting them know we wish to review the new box. So that was pretty much a big waste of time.. HAHAHAH!!
we just don't get no respect
