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The second Golden Age

isolator42 - 2010-05-25 09:41

quote:
Originally posted by lav loo:
you can,t compare that with the early stuff surely, all i can say is what went wrong there?? Wink

Smile fair enough... not everyone's cup-of-tea in the looks department for sure. I can see where you're coming from.

However, I've always maintained that boomers are primarily for listening to, & that JVC sounds great, whatever your views on the looks...

lav.loo - 2010-05-25 09:47

fair play I42 Nod Yes im sure it does sound nice, and please remember it,s only my opinion, some people might not like that blockbuster in my avvy, but it,s my taste just like the jvc is yours, and i gotta add that sound quality means a lot too Nod Yes Wink

adespin - 2010-05-25 13:54

quote:
Originally posted by isolator42:
Here's an example of the changing fashion of boombox looks. A "missing link" between old & new perhaps:

Here, JVC hadn't yet abandoned the ruler, but the all-black, purposeful & menacing look was there.
Selling a boomer with a great new feature was still alive - this was amongst the very first of their "Hyper-Bass" boomers. Oh, & it actually worked too.
Also the dreaded cutbacks on features hadn't happened yet either with this one. We're talking Dolby, auto-reverse, 5 band EQ, 4 band tuner with SW fine-tune, Mic input, proper aux-in. Oh, & say it quietly... a CD player Smile


Really like the look of the JVC Isolator Nod Yes , wouldn't look out of place on the flight deck of a Lockheed Tristar. What model is it?

bendycat - 2010-05-25 17:27

boxes are like woman - they come in all sorts of shapes and sizes - what ever there age, there is a model for every one - some like the same and some may prefer others - but we are all here for the same thing

the need to discuss the the differences in each others ones is good - to put down the individual for liking one over the other is not cool

i'm not having a dig at any one - i just want you all to know we are here for the same thing - the love of boxes Cool

over to jerry for his final thoughts on boxes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgCt6bSu89w

isolator42 - 2010-06-24 18:06

quote:
Originally posted by adespin:
Really like the look of the JVC Isolator Nod Yes , wouldn't look out of place on the flight deck of a Lockheed Tristar. What model is it?
It's a JVC PC-V2.

lav.loo - 2010-06-25 08:23

well after hearing some of the later boxes, i can hold my hands up and atleast say some of them sounded great, but the looks kill em, sorry ade Wink

reli - 2010-06-25 11:11

I prefer traditional boxes, but I have no doubt that a Panasonic egg would last longer than any 80's box. Just because 80's boxes are heavier doesn't mean they were higher quality.

adespin - 2010-06-25 13:55

Hallelujah to that brother, at last someone is not looking through rose tinted specs Nod Yes

technics.choy - 2010-06-25 19:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE4HURIWEOY

lav.loo - 2010-06-26 07:15

quote:
Originally posted by Reli:
I prefer traditional boxes, but I have no doubt that a Panasonic egg would last longer than any 80's box. Just because 80's boxes are heavier doesn't mean they were higher quality.

i gotta disagree here RELI Nod Yes you cant compare the quality of an egg, to an early 80,s box, no way No No Wink

monolithic - 2010-06-26 09:18

Pass some of that Kool-Aid to me...

lav.loo - 2010-06-26 10:50

Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud Cool

easthelp - 2010-06-29 05:52

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer:
quote:
Originally posted by lav loo:
quote:
Originally posted by Boomer:
I have 3 dt707. They sound better than most golden age boomboxes...

Eek you gotta be havin a laugh right?? or have you never had any of the top end early boxes?? Big Grin


I have most of the high end golden age boomboxes.

I can tell you for a fact the dt707 ranks as one of the best lav Smile


It's never nice to admit that your favourite is not the best or even the second or third best around Frown. Still, perhaps it's not endlessly surprising that an avid collector like Boomer would say such things. Units like the Panasonic RX-DT707 (from the mid-Eighties, the late Eighties and after) were probably designed and built with more modern aluminum-cone speaker technology -- or a pretty good precursor to that kind of loudspeaker milestone.

I also suspect there's a measure of price-based give-and-take: if the units are designed with any -- or many -- VU meters and/or signal-strength LEDs (like lav loo mentions), then the engineers are compelled to curtail some other aspect of quality, like the power rating of the unit (e.g., 48 watts versus 40 watts). This in turn determines HOW LOUD THE UNIT CAN GO! Big Grin

Or the engineers emphasize VU meters and speaker-perimeter disco lights Cool. But their executives insist that to keep the unit (relatively) affordable, the machine will lack a
CD player. Or the CD player will have a feeble display. Or the CD player will play CDs barely
better than the tape deck(s) handle(s) audiotapes (e.g., a CD player with a 55dB signal-to-noise ratio).

In any case, the executives at Panasonic, at JVC or wherever have probably often claimed that their relatively newer products -- maybe post-1985, maybe post-1990 -- lack the features from pre-1990 and pre-1985 goods simply because
market surveys show most customers don't want those features (and maybe strictly don't NEED them -- like shortwave tuning Frown). And, lest I
go any more off-course, post-1990 aluminum-cone
speakers versus pre-1990 paper-cone speakers (even with the same wattage and similar dimensions of the boomboxes) might mean the difference between groovin' to music because it's music you already like being played loudly and groovin' to music because the bass is so
much "punchier" and the mid-range is so much
"cleaner." Cool. And let's not forget: a
"squat" or "egg" shape for the boombox cabinets
might be better acoustically. Don't high-quality brands like Bose have a couple of
"squat"-style models (but probably not their Acoustic Wave series)?

adespin - 2010-06-29 12:23

I'm sorry but you've lost me here, what are you saying?

Do you approve of 80's and 90's eggs, or like the majority on this forum you think they are pants!! Confused

lav.loo - 2010-06-30 02:49

ye come on easthelp, we need a straight forward answer here Nod Yes and try avoiding the shortwave talk Laugh Out Loud Wink

litfan - 2010-07-01 06:59

Well, i`ve heard hugiins of boxes, and, the dt707 still comes out on top for sound. The dt75 is close behind, but, has that fabulous deck section. The jap only rc-x models are also good. As for looks, forget it.

adespin - 2010-07-01 12:24

I've got to agree with you LITFAN, i've just bought a Panny DT707 off ebay that i've now got fully working. In tecno surround it gives me goose pimples, awsome sound.

I have also just got a JVC RC-X720, although there is no surround sound, boy does it belt out the decibels



reli - 2010-07-02 15:49

quote:
Originally posted by lav loo:
quote:
Originally posted by Reli:
I prefer traditional boxes, but I have no doubt that a Panasonic egg would last longer than any 80's box. Just because 80's boxes are heavier doesn't mean they were higher quality.

i gotta disagree here RELI Nod Yes you cant compare the quality of an egg, to an early 80,s box, no way No No Wink

I said Panasonic egg. What feature about 80's boxes do you think is superior to a Panasonic DT series?

lasonic.trc920 - 2010-07-04 03:04

I hate to say it, but I don't do eggs at all. Yes that's very prejudice, but I won't go near them! My personal love affair is with 80's silver squares. Many were straight up pieces of cr@p. Some were silver gods! But the reason I am here is very personal. And eggs, sound quality or not, have nothing to do with what I'm looking for!

lasonic.trc920 - 2010-07-04 03:11

Not to be a D1ck, but I would slap my wife if she was this ugly! Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud Nod Yes No No Nod Yes



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monolithic - 2010-07-04 06:34

Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud

lav.loo - 2010-07-04 11:23

Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud well i was wandering why the handle is so tall on the jvc Confused is it so you don,t scratch the cd door cover when your wearing knuckle dusters?? or is it to hang yourself from when your fed up of lookin at it?? failing that you could attatch a couple of swings from it for your kids Laugh Out Loud
sorry ade iv,e got my silly head on today Nod Yes Wink

monolithic - 2010-07-04 17:15

Are we kicking this man while he's down? Isn't there a rule against that - "unsportsmanlike conduct" or something like that... and whatnot? Big Grin

lasonic.trc920 - 2010-07-04 18:13

I'm sorry... Big Grin... It's not right (even if it is easy)

When it comes to "Stereo Equipment" they really should be judged on sound performance, not looks. If a radio is up on a shelf at a party and people are dancing while it delivers the goods, then who cares!

To be totally fair, below is a "Classic" boom box. 8 inch speakers, aluminum face, large size. LOOKS MENACING!

It's Not! It has, sadly no power at all, totally weak performance and no bass! NONE!
(This radio will be getting some much needed mod's later this summer, stay tuned)

So in this respect, your egg's would WALLOP this classic sliver beast!

adespin - 2010-07-05 04:25

quote:
Originally posted by lav loo:
Laugh Out Loud Laugh Out Loud well i was wandering why the handle is so tall on the jvc Confused is it so you don,t scratch the cd door cover when your wearing knuckle dusters?? or is it to hang yourself from when your fed up of lookin at it?? failing that you could attatch a couple of swings from it for your kids Laugh Out Loud
sorry ade iv,e got my silly head on today Nod Yes Wink






OK, i can appreciate the humour, but i've got to say the last laugh is on you, because while most of this forum would rather be castrated than have an egg in their collection, i on the other hand collect and appreciate all types of boomboxes, as can be seen in part of my collection below. Razz











lav.loo - 2010-07-05 05:16

hey ADE, first off i gotta say im glad you got a sense of humour Nod Yes
secondly i think you got some nice boxes in your collection there, i particularly like the panny at the bottom, is it the 5150/5250??
and lastly this is a great thread you put up mate Nod Yes Wink

reli - 2010-07-05 10:01

Wow those are some minty fresh Hitachis Nod Yes

adespin - 2010-07-05 13:23

quote:
Originally posted by lav loo:
hey ADE, first off i gotta say im glad you got a sense of humour Nod Yes
secondly i think you got some nice boxes in your collection there, i particularly like the panny at the bottom, is it the 5150/5250??
and lastly this is a great thread you put up mate Nod Yes Wink


You now what they say Lav, "Laugh, and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone" Laugh Out Loud.

The Panasonic is a RX-5250, great ambient sound.
I've got to say, Panasonics are my favourite Nod Yes

- 2010-07-05 13:33

quote:
Originally posted by Litfan:
Well, i`ve heard hugiins of boxes, and, the dt707 still comes out on top for sound. The dt75 is close behind, but, has that fabulous deck section. The jap only rc-x models are also good. As for looks, forget it.


Ey up rich.... thers nowt wrong with a scrambled egg my friend Smile

lav.loo - 2010-07-05 14:16

quote:
Originally posted by adespin:
quote:
Originally posted by lav loo:
hey ADE, first off i gotta say im glad you got a sense of humour Nod Yes
secondly i think you got some nice boxes in your collection there, i particularly like the panny at the bottom, is it the 5150/5250??
and lastly this is a great thread you put up mate Nod Yes Wink


You now what they say Lav, "Laugh, and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone" Laugh Out Loud.

The Panasonic is a RX-5250, great ambient sound.
I've got to say, Panasonics are my favourite Nod Yes

ye i thought it was the 5250, i gotta say also that panny,s are one of my faves, especially for sound Nod Yes iv,e had the 5500,5300 and 5600, oh and last but not least the 89 rx ct900 which blew me away for a later box with the amount of bass it pumped out Nod Yes Wink

lasonic.trc920 - 2010-07-05 14:24

Yeah, you have a sweet collection....no doubt. That Sharp VZ2000 is really sweet!

Great thread!