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monolithic - 2009-01-18 08:58

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Originally posted by Prime:
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Originally posted by MONOLITHIC:

That's one of the most imposing/impressive pieces of machinery I've ever seen!

Man, I bet that thing weighs a ton! What are its dimensions and weight?

That bad boy weighs in at a whopping 34 pounds(15.4 Kg)!

22" wide 13 1/2" high 7" deep (56cm x 34cm x 18cm)

Somehow, I didn't get the impression that was a lightweight... Again, impressive!!!

panabox - 2009-01-18 09:57

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Originally posted by hifitom:
The bass from the Party Center 2000 hifi to the Panasonic DT-680 / DT-690?

Fat and juicy like you would expect it from a Hifi-unit. Great mid/kick-bass + enough sub-bass. It's like a Kaboom with hifi-sound, but more softer, smoother in the sound (+ full highs, mids + the best tuner which was ever build in a ghettoblaster - as I know is the synthesizer tuner a unit of the Satellit-series of Grundig) ...

I got the Kaboom in every day use, because the RC, CD and it's easy to handle (so my wife also got no problem with it). But when you hear the Kaboom next to other Hifi-bboxes I would love to kick it in the trash can.

Specialy that ACS for highs go on my nerves, becaues it doesn't work as it should be (to slow, not exact enough). And there is no stage at all! No surrounding sound, just a good dynamic in the bass section, like the Hifi-units I collect. But they combinate the dynamic with a great surround, Hifi-sound ...

Best wishes
TOM

Thanks Hifitom. From what others have said on this forum, the DT-680 has more bass than the DT 690. Hopefully you'll get a chance to hear the DT-680. Because when I heard the Kaboom against my DT-680, I thought the DT-d80, hit lower. Especially when playing tracks with synthesized lower frequencies, like Herbie Hancock's "Dis is Da DRum" CD, title track "Butterfly", Or with notes like the low airy rumble of a pipe organ. I did think that the Kaboom distorted less and produced cleaner and harder midbass.

panabox - 2009-01-18 10:32

http://stereo2go.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3366054064/m/5551032044

So is Panasonic's RX-c300 really rated at 100 watts and still run on batteries? Where would this box rank in power and deep bass compared to the DT-680?

hifitom - 2009-01-18 10:44

Wow

this RX-300 looks cool! I want such a bbox! I'm also interest how the sound of this thing is ...

and ...

how does the Technics bbox (type ?, I think there is just one, or?) sound ???

Best wishes
TOM

oldskool69 - 2009-01-18 11:35

I have the RX-C300 and it can hit pretty hard. It has one of the best amp sections out there. Twin IC's (one for each channel) plus the vacuum flourescent spectrum analyzer. A very sweet unit indeed.

Here is a picture of my top section with analyzer on.

panabox - 2009-01-18 11:55

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Originally posted by oldskool69:
I have the RX-C300 and it can hit pretty hard. It has one of the best amp sections out there. Twin IC's (one for each channel) plus the vacuum flourescent spectrum analyzer. A very sweet unit indeed.

Here is a picture of my top section with analyzer on.

how does its bass compare to the DT-680's?

oldskool69 - 2009-01-18 12:13

The DT-680 benefits from better engineering thus better bass. What the RX-C300 could use is a loudness circuit for lower volumes.

panabox - 2009-01-18 12:30

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Originally posted by oldskool69:
The DT-680 benefits from better engineering thus better bass. What the RX-C300 could use is a loudness circuit for lower volumes.

Can you explain, in general, how a loudness circuit operates? Thanks!

oldskool69 - 2009-01-18 12:48

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Originally posted by Panabox:
Can you explain, in general, how a loudness circuit operates? Thanks!

A loudness circuit works by compensating for the loss at low volumes or SPL "sound pressure level(s)" into the human ear. What it will do is boost low and high frequencies and as the volume increases, when working correctly, diminish it's presence as it's not needed then. Here is a simple diagram of an analog loudness circuit.

Many higher end boomboxes have this feature. You will notice at low listening levels, that the music will seem to have an empty almost background noise type of "feel". Engaging the loudness, DSL or whatever flavor it's called, will boost the low and high end to balance it with the mids which tend to stay pretty flat across the volume spectrum. The music then regains a richer sound.

prime - 2009-01-18 13:30

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Originally posted by Panabox:
http://stereo2go.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3366054064/m/5551032044

So is Panasonic's RX-c300 really rated at 100 watts and still run on batteries? Where would this box rank in power and deep bass compared to the DT-680?

Some are rated at 100 while others are rated at 60 but, there all the same on the inside.
They all take 10 D cells.

oldskool69 - 2009-01-18 14:04

I think everyone is getting "power consumption" mixed up with "RMS power output".

The power consumption is what you'll find next to the voltage rating for the box.

The actual output of the RX-C300 is around 20-30w per channel RMS power. I need to put mine on the meter and test it to range it.

prime - 2009-01-18 14:16

nope. Were just talkin about the power consumption. Some say 60 while others say 100.

on a different note, here's a good size comparison pic.

panabox - 2009-01-18 14:47

Does anyone know what the RMS rating is per channel for the DT680?

panabox - 2009-01-19 20:31

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Originally posted by Panabox:
Does anyone know what the RMS rating is per channel for the DT680?

Anybody?