beatbox - 2008-01-23 14:58
I just want to say how annoying I find it that there are members on this forum who live in areas which are practically boombox goldmines, and who can easily... no wait, very very easily pick up any number of boxes to offer in full or even as spare parts.
I am not in such affluent areas where I can go out and pick up a 777 or M90 just like that, but when I have seen boxes that people have needed or indeed bits of those boxes, I have offered them up or at least offered to help people get them.
A lot of people's dreams could be fulfilled by a couple of members here. But instead they choose to buy multiple numbers of 'grails', post 'interesting' stories on how they keep stumbling upon these hard to get items, and then fade away until next week when again they happen to come across yet more 'grails' as well as boxes too numerous to mention.
Parts are really very very hard to come by, and I know that there are people on this forum who would glaly pay for such parts. I cannot believe some folk have to literally wait for years for a door, aerial or knob when others on this forum walk past these items on a daily basis.
It seems that there are collectors out there who are in it to enjoy the hobby and to help out others, and then there are those who are in it because they enjoy bragging about how great it is to collect so many radios and how good an 'investment' it is.
Don't get me wrong. I would be lying if I said I didn't plan to sell some of the boxes in the future in the hope I can get some cash.
I just feel that some folk around here get far too much praise and are looked upon as kings when in fact they are no more than hoarders looking out for their own interests and who actually couldn't give a damn about anybody else on the board.
I actually find this abhorrent and it amazes me that the people who have ready access to these incredible machines are the ones least willing to help any one out.
Apart from 'entertaining' us with their 'amazing find stories' of course.
I would rather dream about a door for my M90 than have my nose rubbed in the fact that these people can just walk past these boxes if they choose.
I think it's pathetic and feel these people should start contributing more to this forum like all the other good folk around here who would do a lot to help out a fellow member.
Yes I am sour but I apologise not for my views, and though they may seem childish, I feel that I should express them as things are really getting silly around here.
excellent point. never thought of it that way before. most have the parts you need but refuse to sell it even if they have extras. they aren't stupid they know they can get more for them as the years go by if they hoard as many as possible now
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-23 15:28
Beatbox you make an excellent point that I didn't know how to approach. I have had some of the same feelings when we hear stories of how some people have so much they are passing on boxes that many of us aching for. I don't have a problem with people collecting these boxes in their little gold mines however it sure seems the right thing to do would be to pass some of these finds to other members and make a few bucks in the process. Even just passing on some of the parts would be a huge help to us all.
Personally I would take great pleasure in making many of you happier S2G members by passing on my excess finds If I lived in one of these gold mines.
OK, OK, OK, I get it.
I will not tell anymore stories about redbenjoes boombox finds.
It seems that there are collectors out there who are in it to enjoy the hobby and to help out others, and then there are those who are in it because they enjoy bragging about how great it is to collect so many radios and how good an 'investment' it is.
true that is. you cant let it bother you tho man. i mean i collect boom boxes and i have never paid more than forty five bucks for the ones i get. some are grails some are just neat.
its funny this morning i was looking around the room and noticed i have quite a few rare ones now.
i have totaly enjoyed collecting them and will continue to do so.
i dont care what they are worth what they can sell for.
i keep my feelings to myself about what i think about the prices they sell for now.
be patient my friend every dog has his day and things just appear sometime.
people are strange i mean they enjoy what they enjoy you cant change that.
as for repect or what ever i never really cared about who has the most. i can tell the difference between the people who are sincere and the people who are business men. its ok if they are business men i am just not interested in really anything they have to say. i mean in the end alot of people who have sunk a bunch of money into stuff i am afraid are not going to be too happy. i think we have seen the peak of prices.
remember if theres people who have nothing to say that interests you you can always block them from having thier posts appearing so you wont even know they are here.
everyones got a different meaning and reason why they collect.
for me its about urban street culture electro and early hip hop mentality. the industry of the transistor and resistor,ok that a bit wierd sounding but i dont care what anyone thinks.
do not worry about your door it will come. in the mean time enjoy the boombox.
i mean i am sure you do.
dont let it get to you theres always going to be people who will come out of the woodwork and help you out.
i do agree with much you say and i think its cool you posted it
frustrating isnt it beatbox. frustrating. i will say though nobodys comin across m90s on a daily basis, no matter where you live. thats a tough cookie. best chace is to watch this board like a hawk till one crops up then pounce like the mythical... some thing... anyways man be strong i waited a year to find a door for my m90. is it just the glass you need or the frame too, i have the frame spare
This thread is the reason why i don't post what i find anymore...nor do i post pictures of my AMAZING collection
... which IMO is a shame as you would "think" that this would be the ONLY place in the world where you could post what you have, and find... & others could really be just as happy for you...I collect for myself anyways...i would like to share my collection here but i don't have the energy to sit and argue anymore over stupid things like "I'm better than you, you have more than me...and all that other blah blah blah nonsense
kitt, gimme some of that popcorn
-gsbadbmr
empathy, GS. try imagine what its like to live somewhere crap with no bbxs. and then read about mofos livin in bbx paradise. it can get a little vexing unfortunately. its a pity.
jaredscottfla - 2008-01-23 15:46
i give away parts and boxes all the time ,and i work hard for my boxes ,and most of them dont come cheap.some do though ,i used to sell some box parts but then i just got to the point where i knew i could make a difference so i started giving the parts away , even some hard to find parts ,its mind blowing when you find that part you need and some one goes through alot of trouble just to give it to you free ,i mean thats beyond cool.
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Originally posted by NED 209:
empathy, GS. try imagine what its like to live somewhere crap with no bbxs. and then read about mofos livin in bbx paradise. it can get a little vexing unfortunately. its a pity.
No doubt NED...There is ALOT more to life though then boomboxes...why doesn't everyone here who is reading this thread think about this instead:
"try to imagine what it's like to live somewhere CRAP without a proper roof over your head with clean running water, or even FOOD to keep you alive"
The grass is always greener on the other side of the street. This boombox collecting isn't a competition, it's a hobby...some people have luck, some people don't...that's just how it is. If i desperately wanted a certain boombox, i would work my bloody arse off (and i do) and save the money and buy it on e-Pay like so many people do.
-gsbadbmr
I can see your point beatbox
,but I will say this. I have been waiting an eternity for a Sansui CP-7. And I have been quietly working a deal to get one from a member who rarely posts here. James was also helpful because he knew of my passion fo this unit and of the individual that has it. Do I have it yet? No. The person who does have it wants to get it to me in working condition. The point is, if you need something stay persistent about it. Keep posting, don't ask, expect a response and let it drift away. There are tons of threads of people looking for the same parts. Yes, we would like to believe if you need a hand someone would lend one, and if I were sitting on a goldmine with three or four of the same thing and one was complete and others were in various stages, I would part out, keeping what I think I may need, that's just me. But maybe their holding on in case of a bad accident so they can rebuild. These things aren't exactly everywhere. I live in Alabama, not exactly a boombox haven. But just because I do, I don't place the burden on anyone here at s2g to be obligated to help me out. I'd rather it be from the goodness of their heart and mind to help address a need than simply an obligation because I'm a member or they've been guilted into it.
if i was in china and had the money to buy 2 dozen grail boxes for members i would chare for my time and effort on top of what i paid for the boxes,on the other hand it would suck to have to deal with the shipping and complaints on all those boxes ,i mean thats alot of hassles .add that on top of working for a living and you are headed for disaster .
I know you were expecting that this post might raise the tension level a bit so here we go. I was going to shut my mouth but I changed my mind. Please note beatbox that my response to your post is simply a point of view and does not imply any hard feelings in any way. However, in my opinion this post stinks to high heaven.
Now I can't speak for anyone else here but as I see it, this is a hobby based on a collectible yet enjoyable item. This is not like stamp collecting where you open the book once in awhile and say "oh boy" and close it. We can actually enjoy and make use of the collections we have.
Let's break down some of what you say here, and I don't know who in particular you are referring to in this post and it really doesnt matter. Fact are facts, and the only facts I know of are my own so I will example myself in this. Although my area is cityish I dont find too much out in the wild. I do come across them here and there with ad's I have posted and trips to flea markets etc.. Other's I spend hard earned money for on TrashBay. You seem to feel negatively about people with multiple numbers of "grails" well, what's wrong with a person having multiple numbers of grails? This is what they like and this is what they choose to do. When I hear stories about some of the members finding grails in the wild, sure I wish it was me instead, and although natural jealosy (saying to myself "damn lucky ba$tard" with a smile on my face) may arise, I am certainly not upset with them . The way I see it they have saved another one from impending doom. I mean what are they suppose to do when they see a Conion in the wild for next to nothing? Feel guilty and leave it? Cmon now!!!
As far as intentions, I myself have, or at some point in time will, have my hands inside each and every one of the radios I own regardless of it's grail status. It is what I like to do. I find pleasure in taking each and every one of these no matter their "grail" status, and making them the best that they can be. It is satisfying.
Now I want to reference what you said about someone having several grails and not being forthcoming with parts etc... Let's compare what you said to a collector of classic or antique automobiles. Let's say I have 2 1971 Hemi Cudas which I have restored from the ground up (I wish) and both are in need of the same part which is faulty. And someone else needs that same part. Shall I not make one of mine complete for the sake of their Hemi Cuda even though I may have 2? No, I doubt it.
I have multiples of some radios and many of them still need alot of work to make complete. If someone were to ask me for a part off of one of them I would have to consider certain things and the first thing would be, do I potentially need that part to make another one whole? If I do then I would certainly hesitate to part with it. On the other hand, if what I have left is a shell which cannot be restored, then my position would be different. Is that selfish? If so then I guess I am selfish.
Now each persons reasoning for why, how, how many, boxes they buy is their own. But one thing to keep in mind is that we all share a similar unusual interest which even borders on "cultish" Maybe we have different reasoning for what we do i.e investment etc... but in general I think the majority of us here cringe at the thought of how many of these get smashed at the local dump every day so that in itself shows a common caring feelng for these radios. I do my part to keep as many of them out of there as I can. The people who hear about S2GO and join to post a quick ad about the box they have for sale on ECrap are the ones who don't care. I have quite a few radios as well as some duplicates. Will I ever sell some of them? I sure as hell hope so but I can tell you that after working on them, the thought of getting rid of any of them seems painful. Sounds stupid maybe but I myself grow attached. Each is unique, as is the work that was or will required to make it beautiful again. Try to remember this too, all of us, aside from inadvertantly assisting environmentally by keeping these things out of landfills, are not taking part in any monumental ground breaking achievement. We collect BOOMBOXES! Well, that's it for me, let the flames begin I guess.
peace bro,
peter.griffin - 2008-01-23 16:40
I feel yeah Beatbox. But this forum, like the world out there, has all kinds of members with all different kinds of personalities. Some are willing to give the shirts off their back, others just want to gloat and share there "babies". To each his own.
I hope you find the parts your looking for, because it seems like it's really stressing you out, and stress ain't good for you
GS bud im probably the one that put you off posting your new finds. sorry about that. im just a jealous guy ♪
boo to me
I hear you Beatbox.I have made it clear lots and lots of times that I want a Aiwa 880 from any member here that would sell or trade one to me.But yet I have lost out on a couple of them after members on this site sold them without even giving me a chance to buy it.
When I asked the members in question,I was told " Gee,I didn't know you wanted a CS880 Skippy.I would have gave you a chance if I would have known that"
I've only been asking for one since I joined here in October 2003. There are a lot of people here that won't sell there stuff when I ask,but it seems like they are scared to put a price on it.All my stuff is for sale,just ask me.I know I will probably never get a nice CS880.I know there is one on Ebay right now,but I can't bring myself to bid on it because I know I will loose the auction,so I won't even try for it because I'm afraid of a huge let down.It's not worth it to me. I try to help members out here anyway I can,I just hope someday I will be helped out by someone selling me my all time greatest grail.I would give up my whole collection,just to have one box,the Aiwa CS880!
s*** Skip, how much you willin to spend on one? i dont have one but i can keep my eye out
Beatbox i wonder could capitol G make you a door...
Great thread.
Lots to think about.
I for one, have been offered, and offered much needed parts from or for a BBX that was in need.
I have also been told that 'the parts in the mail' or 'yeah we'll swap' and then NOTHING ever happens.
I guess as with all things in life, there are people in this hobby who keep their word, and others who dont.
At this point, everyone who I have done biz with knows how I operate and vise versa. I have my small group of contacts and friends here that I fully trust to send a well packaged part/box if I buy something from them.
I almost wish we had a form of 'feedback' here. Some members are just golden at this hobby.
Remember... 'Love Spreads.'
Ned,I guess the most I could spend is $300.00 or $400.00 depending on shipping.Maybe a bit more if I sold some of my boxes. I would even take one that needs a little work. Thanks Ned! Sorry Beatbox,I'm not trying to jack your thread.
I agree 100% Jeff! I know who to deal with and whom to stay away from.So far I have had nothing but love on here,except for a few time.But that was nothing serious at all.
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Originally posted by JLF:
Great thread.
Lots to think about.
I for one, have been offered, and offered much needed parts from or for a BBX that was in need.
I have also been told that 'the parts in the mail' or 'yeah we'll swap' and then NOTHING ever happens.
I guess as with all things in life, there are people in this hobby who keep their word, and others who dont.
At this point, everyone who I have done biz with knows how I operate and vise versa. I have my small group of contacts and friends here that I fully trust to send a well packaged part/box if I buy something from them.
I almost wish we had a form of 'feedback' here. Some members are just golden at this hobby.
Remember... 'Love Spreads.'
Beatbox-Though I know how you feel,I don't agree with your views of those other members here.We are all here because we have an interest in boomboxes.This includes bidding,finding locally,and maintaining our collections.Some of us are fortunate enough to live in the right areas to find blaster and others do not.Just because a person shares their stories here doesn't mean they owe others anything else.Someday if I start finding a grail every week,I'll certainly post the stories.Please be happy for me and enjoy reading it.
Here's another way of looking at it.Some people are wealthy while others are poor.For example one person might own 50 new Hi-Def televisions while no one else around him has even one.However this doesn't mean he has a moral obligation to sell the rest of his extra ones to others in his community at a "buddy' price or even otherwise at any price.It also doesn't mean he doesn't care about others in his community.If he wants to have the 45 he doesn't use just sitting around and his circumstances allow for it that's fine with me (never mind he could spend some of that money on as nicer house in a better neighborhood
) .It's whatever makes him happy and it's not up to me to determine what he actually needs and what he does not.Also if they fall off their shelves and kill him,it was his decision to keep them as unfortunate as this event might be.If I were him,perhaps I wouldn't choose to do this but we're all different.Of course in this example it is a case of class envy which is not the best comparison with most of us here.What makes most of us different overall is not wealth.Ours are cases of living in the right place,having technical or repair skills,or having had the foresight to buy classic boomboxes when they were originally produced.Even so,just because someone can't or doesn't want to spend the time to do my repairs or shop locally for me doesn't mean I am not interested in them and their input here.To me sharing our words is the main thing the Stereo2go community is all about.These stories are intertaining and informative.No one HAS to post here.
I don't absolutely need anything someone else has.Though it might be pricey,I can always find what I need elsewhere.Though it's always great to add boxes/find parts for your collection,I'm happy and feel fortunate for what I am lucky enough to have.As for those with amazing stories,I'm happy for you and glad you share them for our entertainment.I suppose I just am not the type to be jealous of others.If a poster assumes that I am,he would be sadly mistaken and it would be a pretty pathetic sort of viewpoint.Anyway,If you view them as bragging,simply don't read their stories.
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I just want to say how annoying I find it that there are members on this forum who live in areas which are practically boombox goldmines, and who can easily... no wait, very very easily pick up any number of boxes to offer in full or even as spare parts.
nah, it's okay (in my point of view of course
),
the most annoying thing when someone on here offers a COPY of the manual for frigging five bucks, haha, or "little donation".
that's a real shame.
"brothers in arms"
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Originally posted by metad:
the most annoying thing when someone on here offers a COPY of the manual for frigging five bucks, haha, or "little donation".
that's a real shame.
Then I guess you don't mind paying the typical 15.99-19.99 for the electronic download.
Can I borrow your car with a full tank and drop it off on E?
Think about it.
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-23 18:41
Good thread, everybody is keeping their cool while offering their opinions.
I really think a large part of the frustration that's being expressed comes from certain snippets of a few posts. When reading some posts stating things like "I passed on three 777's today because I just don't have the room" it makes you just a little crazy jealous. I will never say it's wrong to collect whatever you want, it's everyone's right and it's everyones right to do it the way they see fit. I still like reading these posts anyway because it keeps hopes and dreams alive.
I love collecting boomboxes and I'll continue to do so with what means I have available. I also really appreciate this forum and it's members regardless of who does what unless they do something to cheat or harm another member.
Boom On!
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Then I guess you don't mind paying the typical 15.99-19.99 for the electronic download.
yes, i don't mind to pay.
i don't ask for an actual, original, your own manual, you paid for it, you have it - good for you.
but if you send someone just a COPY (one more time - COPY!), you have yours one left. yours one still exist, and you still have it.
but seems like you're afraid if someone will have this manual for free if you already paid for it.
man, i have manuals you don't have, some of them very rare, i don't think you will find them online for download, maybe next time you will be in need of them, i'm sure you don't mind to pay aswell, "make me an offer"
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Can I borrow your car with a full tank and drop it off on E?
no, you can't borrow my car, cause you're afraid to lose five bucks.
think about it.
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Originally posted by metad:
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Then I guess you don't mind paying the typical 15.99-19.99 for the electronic download.
yes, i don't mind to pay.
i don't ask for an actual, original, your own manual, you paid for it, you have it - good for you.
but if you send someone just a COPY (one more time - COPY!), you have yours one left. yours one still exist, and you still have it.
but seems like you're afraid if someone will have this manual for free if you already paid for it.
man, i have manuals you don't have, some of them very rare, i don't think you will find them online for download, maybe next time you will be in need of them, i'm sure you don't mind to pay aswell, "make me an offer"
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Can I borrow your car with a full tank and drop it off on E?
no, you can't borrow my car, cause you're afraid to lose five bucks.
think about it.
I never buy something I can't fix or have access to a service manual. My collection has been complete for months....so it's a moot point.
Your missing the point, its not the fact of $5, YOU made it a point saying that people are asking for donations for something. So what everything is free? Maybe you are that kind, but not everyone else feels that way and understandably so. Just because I own my house, doesn't mean that I'll give the rights for my neighbors just to come in and use my tools and stuff for nothing....sorry.
BTW, here is a perfect example to describe why I believe your position is completely wrong: I was lucky enough to get some great schematics from a member for a very popular radio here (in which very few others here have), I covered shipping to me and back, PLUS a small donation for the troubles. Then on top of that it cost me (I sh*t you not) over $100 to make the copies of it........so by your logic I should just give everyone who asks a copy of it just because you believe that it should just be free......PLuuueze......
I'm sure we all have many thing other do not, how you chose to help others is your business. I just don't agree with you about how your not happy that people ask for some minor money to offset THEIR cost......> That is what YOU were suppose to think about before your last response.
More members should DONATE money at the link below to this wonderful forum and site to help keep it going
http://stereo2go.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8306018954/m/1421052315-gsbadbmr
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Just because I own my house, doesn't mean that I'll give the rights for my neighbors just to come in and use my tools and stuff for nothing....sorry.
haha, once again, the COPY, COPY, COPY of the manual is not your home, is not your tools, is not a GASOLINE.
those thing are different.
you will lost nothing if you share the COPY with someone.
(please notice, i do not need your manuals)
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Then on top of that it cost me (I sh*t you not) over $100 to make the copies of it........so by your logic I should just give everyone who asks a copy of it just because you believe that it should just be free
you said "everyone"? yes you're right, there is no community ANYMORE, by your logic you have to pay all of people who post pictures of their radios for you pleasure, cause they have spend time for it and time for bying/charging the batteries for the camera.
i don't believe everything is free, but i believe it's cheap to charge for a switch tip or a copy of the manual, and in the end there are things much more important than money (notice - small money), you say you never buy something if you have no access to a manual...what should i say "never say never".
i hate the sound and look of the word -- HOARDING -
its an ugly word --and not a very admirable act -
--- but in the many cases where collectors truly enjoy each and every box they own --then , thats not hoarding (IMHO)
there are times when i have bought doubles of boxes -- its usually because i like them so much , that i need a 'daily beater' version --
and in the case of the most rare box i have --my toshiba S90 --i bought an extra
one - just as a back-up, because my first one is so undependable and delicate -- that it always sounds seconds away from self-destructing
but i think we all can decide our own personal borderlines between the hobby of collecting and the acts of hoarding --
so -- it is not useful to ever make a judgement about another members activities
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Originally posted by beatbox:
A lot of people's dreams could be fulfilled by a couple of members here. But instead they choose to buy multiple numbers of 'grails'.
Am i the only one who wants to know who these "couple of members here" are
The finger seems to have been pointed but i want to know at WHO
-gsbadbmr
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Originally posted by redbenjoe:
i hate the sound and look of the word -- HOARDING -
its an ugly word --and not a very admirable act -
But...if you add a "W" and remove a "D" and an "A" you end up with a sometimes pretty word and a very admirable act IMO. (Let's see how many people get that) Trying to lighten things up around here before I go off to hoard some more boxes.
lolol -- i get it - i agree
very cool way to light it up and to lighten it up !!
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Originally posted by gsbadbmr:
quote:
Originally posted by beatbox:
A lot of people's dreams could be fulfilled by a couple of members here. But instead they choose to buy multiple numbers of 'grails'.
Am i the only one who wants to know who these "couple of members here" are
The finger seems to have been pointed but i want to know at WHO
-gsbadbmr
You know who we are!!!
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Originally posted by bashngu:
But...if you add a "W" and remove a "D" and an "A" you end up with
"HOARDING"
bash, what if you add a "W", remove the "D" and replace it with an "E", Remove the "I" and replace it with an "A"..then add "RY" an the end and this pretty much sums up some people in this thread
So HA...there you have it peeps
-gsbadbmr
Are we all done pissing on each other? If so lets get back to why we are all here. We have a mutual love for these things plain and simple!!! They are great!!!! Do I want 15 M90's? No, I'd prefer 20!! Why would someone possibly want 20 of the same boombox? Well if for no other reason, maybe it would look pretty cool in a picture wouldn't it. If I remeber awhile back, one of our members had an avatar with about 8 or 10 777's stacked. Plain and simple...it looked cool!!! Do I wish my boxes end up being worth a fortune one day? Sure I do, why not!! The question is would I be able to part with any of them anyway if this were the case? I can tell you it would be difficult. It would seem that it would be easier to part with one when you have two or more. Perhaps this could be a reason to acquire multiples.
But still not that easy to part with them anyway. None of us are beyond jealosy to some extent, and believe it or not it's what keeps things interesting and keeps us wanting to see, hear and experience new ones. So if you have a box that you want to sell, part out, or make into a lamp (please no) then so be it!! Or if you prefer to keep what you have acquired, then cheers to you as well. It's all good. Help others when you can and wish to. Avoid EXPECTING things from others. Then when a nice gesture comes along it will be that much more rewarding. It's that simple!! Let's just enjoy them, admire them, and keep them safe.
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Originally posted by metad:
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Just because I own my house, doesn't mean that I'll give the rights for my neighbors just to come in and use my tools and stuff for nothing....sorry.
haha, once again, the COPY, COPY, COPY of the manual is not your home, is not your tools, is not a GASOLINE.
those thing are different.
you will lost nothing if you share the COPY with someone.
(please notice, i do not need your manuals)
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Then on top of that it cost me (I sh*t you not) over $100 to make the copies of it........so by your logic I should just give everyone who asks a copy of it just because you believe that it should just be free
you said "everyone"? yes you're right, there is no community ANYMORE, by your logic you have to pay all of people who post pictures of their radios for you pleasure, cause they have spend time for it and time for bying/charging the batteries for the camera.
i don't believe everything is free, but i believe it's cheap to charge for a switch tip or a copy of the manual, and in the end there are things much more important than money (notice - small money), you say you never buy something if you have no access to a manual...what should i say "never say never".
The manual is a service piece. Like any other good, must be paid for. Your right, a copy doesn't affect anything or anyone. But that is the mentality of some, they want everything for nothing. Don't get me wrong, I like getting stuff for nothing, but when someone is doing ME A SERVICE, like providing me a schematic, it is COMMON decency to offer up something for someone who is HELPING YOU OUT. Sometimes the giver won't accept, but sometimes paying a FRACTION of what it would cost you just falls under..........common sense. So by that token, should I send you over my 40,000+ MP3 audio files which have been bought and paid for by me because it would just be a copy?
Your examples of your pictures/batteries....garbage, no one asks you to post your pictures and stuff here, you do that because you want to.
When there is someone in the tech section ASKING FOR HELP/SERVICE MANUALS, that is an entirely different aspect and the point I'm driving at. If I paid big dollars for something, I'd be hard pressed just to freely redistribute it. But I have for members that I know or that have helped me in the past. But to post it on my FTP sight, no way.
I can see we will never see eye to eye on this point, so lets just agree to disagree.
To respond to the never say never......if I can't fix it, or I can't get the tools/manuals to fix it......guess what.....in the garbage can it goes.....grail or no grail.......
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Originally posted by bashngu:
You know who we are!!!
Yup, i know who i is
-gsbadbmr
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Originally posted by kittmaster:
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To respond to the never say never......if I can't fix it, or I can't get the tools/manuals to fix it......guess what.....in the garbage can it goes.....grail or no grail.......
Umm, b4 you pitch them please at least sell us the parts.
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Your examples of your pictures/batteries....garbage, no one asks you to post your pictures and stuff here, you do that because you want to.
really? then why did you ask/demand Arkay to post pictures (not once) of his radios/hunting grounds?
buy a ticket, get there, see what you want. easy.
Hello to all and a very good morning!
Well, this thread has certainly brought out some interesting thoughts and opinions much of which is appreciated.
However, I just want to state that this was purely a test thread to see how people felt about situations such as this. Please read on and all will be explained!
I recently noticed a thread asking whether I had contributed to this site financially, and do you know what, I hadn't! I had been using this site for a year and since maybe the first week, had never again noticed the donate sign at the top of the page. So I jumped on it and made my donation. (By the way, this thread is not meant to make people donate or not, I talk only of myself here). The sheer nature of this thread shocked me by the fact that it felt as though I had to 'prove' something and that if I didn't contribute and say I had, that I was in some way a bad person. Still it worked! Anyway, it got me to thinking about how we as members actually do donate to this site. The many many ways people who use this site who give their time and resources, and yes often freely, to further our collections, collective knowledge and sheer fun.
At this point I would like to take my hat off to all the people who make this site what it is, and we all know who they are. Right now people like Arkay with his wonderful stories, Bredgeo with his handicrafts and Kittmaster with his tech support all make this site the fine and complete resource what it is. These are but 3 names out of many who continue to contribute to, love and care for this site.
So, as I was saying. I started to question just how, personally, I had contributed to this site. Well, aside from helping a few brothers out in locating boxes, sending parts around the globe and posting some pretty pictures of my own collection, I felt that I hadn't done much.
So, I decided that I would make more of an effort by first of all posting the Telefunken 1M manual which took me the best part of 2 hours to scan, adjust and upload the thing. Then I posted it up. I know that some people will have found it useful while others not.
I then started thinking about whether or not I could do something regarding the ever-on-going-t-shirt situation which as a graphic designer I should be able to contribute to in plenty. Some other things also came to mind.
The point is, I was trying to value my own contrbution to site, and yes, I even felt guilty that I get so much from the site without giving back enough. Not a big worry, but I value this site a lot, and I will say that if it ever dissapeared, it would be a great loss.
Then right at this moment it came to me. NOBODY REALLY CARES! That's right, we all make this site what it is, in our way. And I shouldn't even be worrying about it. As someone responded here, "I try to help members out here anyway I can,I just hope someday I will be helped out by someone selling me my all time greatest grail". OK, maybe not my all time greatest grail, but what goes around comes around.
So, as for the details in this thread -
I myself have managed to 'hoard' quite a lot of boxes over the past year. I myself ALWAYS post stories and 'brag' about my newly acquired 'grails', (remember the alladins cave, or my man in the west?), I myself walk past 'numerous' boxes every week on various flea markets and second hand shops and I too could help people out a lot more by posting wanted bits and bobs to them. And funnily enough, I will indeed continue reading stories about M90's while I wait for my door, even if it does take a year. And yes, I did wait for more tha 14 years for my personal grail, and though it was offered to me here more than 6 times by 2 members, I never gave in and remained patient. Sorry guy's, I know it seemed I was pointing a finger at someone else here, but I was indeed talking about myself.
One thing I can say though is that somebody also pointed out 'jealousy', and personally I haven't really seen any signs of jealousy on this site. Perhaps a little envy, but then that's only natural. We all celebrate eachothers wares as if they were our own , and we all go through the happiness of getting a box together, the dispare of receiving a damaged box, and the ongoing dramas of having boxes fixed or indeed waiting for parts. We share in these things together as a community. I really thing that's why I personally continue to use this site more than anything else, and yes its OK to come here as a first timer an see if you can get cheap parts or even boxes from abroad, but long-time members know of the glorious wonders that await if you stick around.
So, in conclusion -
This topic was something I posted because I wanted to gauge reaction to something that had been bothering me about my own donation. It was also in response to a growing number of members here who expect people in more boombox lucrative areas to simply provide them with cheaper or 'free' boxes and parts. My use of the 'grail' and 'parts' elements was simply because it touches a nerve in a lot of us and this would get a big reaction. Like always, the responses were varied and as always, we get responses that were maybe not expected.
I thank you all for responding here. I dare say it may have seemd a little odd to some members out there that I would start such post, well I hope this has explained a few things. I posted this last night before going to bed and never expected so many replies!
The reading of this thread has changed everything except our way of thinking ...
the solution to this problem lies in the heart of all boomboxers.
If only I had known, I should have become a a Hummel collector.
I don't have any actual hummels but maybe this will help motivate you Ed.
All very in interesting..... True, some help out and others do not, each Boomboxers is his/her own person!
I think I have been helped once (or maby twice) for over 10 things I asked help on, No worries, all works out in the end (most of the time.... and yes, I have donated
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Bred, you helped me by buying a radio, so have no remorse ol'French bred... errrrr... bud.
That is awsome TPR!
I need to work on my photoshop skills!
Das ist wirklich wunderbar!
Since we are collectively now feeling like Mahatma Gandhi, maybe we can all get back to hoarding boomboxes. Hey Jens, I havent donated directly but does buying the database count in that direction?
charlesdickens - 2008-01-24 07:16
This was a good thread! And I'm glad that it has caused people to think a bit. I agree that each person on here collects for their own reasons. But it is true, like everything else in the world, some people have it better than others. Every time I read about people passing by a half a dozen GF777S because of various reasons it amazes me. especially at the price. When I go into lovely downtown Haverhill Massachusetts tomorrow, to the Salvation Army (as I do every Friday) if I were to find an absolutely beaten to hell, cracked up, puke encrusted, 777 with NO tape doors, 1/3 of the knobs and ONLY the AM radio function I would grab it without hesitation for probably way more than it was worth. Just to be able to hold such an item in person, feel the surfaces and the weight by the handle, and examine it's nuances, despite it's condition, would be a thrilling experience for me.
Now I am not in any way implying that it's the responsibility of those who live in good BBX hunting areas to supply the poor, pathetic, slobs, (me
) with their dreams, but to have that opportunity would be fantastic! I literally would pay the shipping from the far reaches of the Earth for a crumby (incredible) $20 777, JVC_ _ _, Sharp, you name it.
I think the reason people feel like those with the luck should help out is because of the feeling of constant defeat. I can really relate to that. Sometimes I ask myself why I continue to go to my regular stops. Why bother? That Salvation Army here in Haverhill smells like a Bum's armpit and it's filled with some scary people! No really.... Scaaary!
But week after week it's a slap in the face. You get the feeling that today will be just another beat down just like last week, and the week before that. It's a draining feeling for sure.
I don't know, I'm just typing my thoughts I guess. I have been to dozens of yard sales, hundreds of pawn,thrift,consignment stores, some on a regular basis, and even dumps and recycling centers and all I have found was small, egg shaped, crap or giant 3 piece monsters with bass tubes and strobe lights that resemble something from the Matrix. The best score besides ebay and deals on here (cuz you know how my recent luck has been with that
) was that horrible Broksonic TV box that I paid three dollars for. This area is as dry as a witches ______. Oh well, at least I have this place.
This isn't a feel bad for Alf post I can assure you. I just though it would shine a little light on some of the feelings people express on here. Honestly, whenever I get really bummed out, I just think. I'm 26 years old. I have my entire life to find my grails. Sure they aren't getting any newer or cheaper, but there are collectors like us who take very good care of their prizes. Maybe I'll have to wait until the kids are out of college to get my M90, my C-100f my 777 and my 5350, but I'll get em'. You can count on that!
