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Loudest/bassiest box?

waxer - 2012-02-22 15:07

I'm on the prowl for a nice box... I was looking for a GF777z or similar, of course the JVC m90 or the Big Ben or Conion... the usual grails... but due to funds & the fun of grabbing a bargain, I'm looking into single cassette boxes that are plain LOUD & big on bass...

 

Opinions on a box??  Thanks

redbenjoe - 2012-02-22 15:31

i think the best bass per price -- by far -

is the JVC Kaboom --

-- about US$ 250 for a real good one-

nothing else,  bass-wise comes close -

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for the 'square' traditional boombox look -

get an original edition lasonic 931 -

also pumps out lots of bass for the buck -

maybe US$300 for a decent one

ghettoman - 2012-02-22 16:13

Hey man,i think ira is right,the kaboom really kicks like no other lol..if your not bothered about a one piece or 3 piece, look out for,Jvc Pc5 or Pc55,Panasonic DT680,CT990 ect,there is plenty of boxes out there that sound kool and they are not that expensive,if you are just starting out just get yourself something like a Sharp GF8989 or GF575,they look nice,sound ok,there is plenty of them around,and they dont cost the earth

redbenjoe - 2012-02-22 16:49

yup --all above are good sounding models in the lower price range

brutus442 - 2012-02-22 17:41

Welcome Waxer!

 

Like BM mentioned, the PC-55/ 550 are POWERFUL boxes...among the best. But for sheer bass, concrete smasshing sound I'd go with RBJ's Kaboom suggestion. IMHO

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 17:58

agree with the guys...kaboom it is....but make sure it's the old one...the modern one with mp'3 player use is not so good......

brick - 2012-02-22 18:14

Kaboom has tons of base .  Pc-55 also has good base . The Pc-55 is held back by the speakers . If you connect bigger speakers to a Pc-55 nothing can touch it . The Pc-55 amp is by far the most powerful . The problem is a good Pc-55 with run around 400-500 bucks .

brutus442 - 2012-02-22 18:40

Originally Posted by Brick:

Kaboom has tons of base .  Pc-55 also has good base . The Pc-55 is held back by the speakers . If you connect bigger speakers to a Pc-55 nothing can touch it . The Pc-55 amp is by far the most powerful . The problem is a good Pc-55 with run around 400-500 bucks .

Agreed Brick. The 55/ 550 is a powerhouse. A Trojan box.....small package, BIG power!!

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 18:47

love the 55 have 5 or 6 of them and on bigger speakers it is way way better.....but with the coninfined speakers it has...it can't even blink at the kaboom....this is sad for me to say...because the 55 is a HOLY grail of mine...(box i always wanted when i were a grasshoper) if the 55 could sound like the m90 i would be in heaven

redbenjoe - 2012-02-22 18:47

Brick is 100% right !!

i use a pair of tele studio 3 ways with my 55 --

the result is as strong and loud as any battery operated factory

boomer can ever be

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 19:14

I will add one thing though,,,the features on the pc 55 are unmached by any other box...and that display is just to die for...(when working correctly)

redbenjoe - 2012-02-22 19:54

95% as great as the tele studios on a 550 center section--

is the 55 with missions --MUCH MUCH better BASS than the

jvc stock speakers

55 with missions

brutus442 - 2012-02-22 20:09

Originally Posted by redbenjoe:

95% as great as the tele studios on a 550 center section--

is the 55 with missions --MUCH MUCH better BASS than the

jvc stock speakers

55 with missions


I agree Ira, the Missions are almost "made" for the 55. I've matched my 550 with my Polk Audio monitors from my surround sound system and am convinced JVC missed creating the finest boombox ever. All they needed was a little "Kaboom" coupled with the 55/ 550 amp.

 

Nothing could have touched it....

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 20:17

Originally Posted by redbenjoe:

95% as great as the tele studios on a 550 center section--

is the 55 with missions --MUCH MUCH better BASS than the

jvc stock speakers

55 with missions

that looks stunning ira....i have about 12 mission bass cones here....i may try some in my 55....tried some sony yrs ago...yes they did improve things alot,,,but i still wasn't happy...(used the same bass that oldschool 69 used in his 55....

 

what's the mn of those missions ira????

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 20:30

One last question...wich is the better centre section the 55 or the 550???? i have both

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:01

Speaking in terms of one piece vintage 1980's boombox's...not kaboom's or 3 piece units. The CONION C100F is the loudest by far and trust me i've owned alot including the JVC M90 and several Conions amongst a ton of others. The JVC M90 has 40 watts total peak power and the CONION C100F has 45 Watts Total. Not hard to do the math or hear the difference in person either,despite all the arguments. The Conion kicks ass every time.

redbenjoe - 2012-02-22 21:11

Originally Posted by radio raheem:

One last question...wich is the better centre section the 55 or the 550???? i have both

i dont think anyone could tell the difference in sound 55 vs. 550 -

they may be identical --

to me it was a 'looks' thing -

the black 550 looks stunning with the silver tele studios.

and the silver 55 looks 'right' with the grey missions

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as for the big $$ conion -- i think ?? this new member is asking

for a much lesser price type box

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:12

You can't compare a high powered 3 piece unit or a more recent Kaboom to a vintage one piece boombox. It's not the same thing at all.... it's like comparing apples and oranges

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 21:13

m90 sounds better to me than the conion chris.....although the conion is louder>> but distorts at over half vol.....all this is my personal opinion though

 

btw did you know the conion uses the same amps as the 777...just an fyj

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:15

I think you are a hardcore old school only collector like me and nobody seems to understand that you are not asking about kabooms or 3 piece units lol
 
 
Originally Posted by Waxer:

I'm on the prowl for a nice box... I was looking for a GF777z or similar, of course the JVC m90 or the Big Ben or Conion... the usual grails... but due to funds & the fun of grabbing a bargain, I'm looking into single cassette boxes that are plain LOUD & big on bass...

 

Opinions on a box??  Thanks

 

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:18

No no no...he is not asking which sounds better and i disagree with your opinion there anyway since i've owned quite a few of both...
He's asking which is louder and has more bass... the CONION buries the M90 at ease in both catagories.
Yes the M90 is alot of hype and is better quality but that's not the question.
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:

m90 sounds better to me than the conion chris.....although the conion is louder>> but distorts at over half vol.....all this is my personal opinion though

 

btw did you know the conion uses the same amps as the 777...just an fyj

 

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:21

The same amps but not the same set-up or speakers...huge difference lol
 
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:

m90 sounds better to me than the conion chris.....although the conion is louder>> but distorts at over half vol.....all this is my personal opinion though

 

btw did you know the conion uses the same amps as the 777...just an fyj

 

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 21:24

Originally Posted by Chris_69:
No no no...he is not asking which sounds better and i disagree with your opinion there anyway since i've owned quite a few of both...
He's asking which is louder and has more bass... the CONION buries the M90 at ease in both catagories.
Yes the M90 is alot of hype and is better quality but that's not the question.
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:

m90 sounds better to me than the conion chris.....although the conion is louder>> but distorts at over half vol.....all this is my personal opinion though

 

btw did you know the conion uses the same amps as the 777...just an fyj

 

Is your name gsbadbeamer he is the only other member who thinks this.....but were all intitled to our own opinions my friend

 

the conion looks the best.... the m90 is the best

 

lol

brick - 2012-02-22 21:26

Originally Posted by radio raheem:

One last question...wich is the better centre section the 55 or the 550???? i have both

The units are the same but the base drivers in the speakers are different . The 550 came with cheaper drivers . I relpaced mine with 55 drivers and now my 550 sounds exactly like my 55 .

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:29

I've owned 13 Conions and have 4 right beside me. None of mine distort anymore than any m90 i've owned. The m90 is all about hype in my opinion. Yes it's high quality piece but LL Cool J is a big part of the $$$
 
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:

m90 sounds better to me than the conion chris.....although the conion is louder>> but distorts at over half vol.....all this is my personal opinion though

 

btw did you know the conion uses the same amps as the 777...just an fyj

 

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 21:31

Originally Posted by radio raheem:

Been there done that....and I 100% agree.....

 

I would like my 55 to kick like no other box.....she is built like a brick and has the power for sure

@ brick

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:32

That's an ago old argument my friend but i would meet you any day of the week with your best m90 and kick ass every time lol! Easily too
The M90 looks cool and it looks high end mostly due to all the sw bands and preset buttons but any of my Conions bury it in both power and bass
 
 
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:
Originally Posted by Chris_69:
No no no...he is not asking which sounds better and i disagree with your opinion there anyway since i've owned quite a few of both...
He's asking which is louder and has more bass... the CONION buries the M90 at ease in both catagories.
Yes the M90 is alot of hype and is better quality but that's not the question.
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:

m90 sounds better to me than the conion chris.....although the conion is louder>> but distorts at over half vol.....all this is my personal opinion though

 

btw did you know the conion uses the same amps as the 777...just an fyj

 

Is your name gsbadbeamer he is the only other member who thinks this.....but were all intitled to our own opinions my friend

 

the conion looks the best.... the m90 is the best

 

lol

 

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:35

PS. gsbadbeamer has 3 M90'S for sale at a really cheap $3000.00 each....

redbenjoe - 2012-02-22 21:35

the model number of the missions say 8VET -

--- made in England

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 21:37

Originally Posted by Chris_69:

PS. gsbadbeamer has 3 M90'S for sale at a really cheap $3000.00 each....

REALY,,,no comment,,,

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 21:38

Originally Posted by redbenjoe:

the model number of the missions say 8VET -

--- made in England

Thanks my friend....one mo i'll show you the mission cones im thinking of using

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 21:49

I like G we wnt through some trauma at the same time....great guy but 3 k...good luck to him

 

redbenjoe i just bought these instead of destroying my missions....my missions have 5 drivers in each...4 or 5 can't remember......

 

not sure how im going to pay tho...im broke lol

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-...;hash=item3cc1fb5815

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:50

PM.. Radio raheem
 
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:
Originally Posted by Chris_69:

PS. gsbadbeamer has 3 M90'S for sale at a really cheap $3000.00 each....

REALY,,,no comment,,,

 

chris69 - 2012-02-22 21:52

Yeah i know. They have been going for insane $$$ on ebay lately but it will die down soon i think after all the guys with bottomless pockets have one. Don't forget those ebay sellers are giving 15% to ebay and paypal fee's.
 
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:

I like G we wnt through some trauma at the same time....great guy but 3 k...good luck to him

 

redbenjoe i just bought these instead of destroying my missions....my missions have 5 drivers in each...4 or 5 can't remember......

 

not sure how im going to pay tho...im broke lol

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-...;hash=item3cc1fb5815

 

redbenjoe - 2012-02-22 21:54

seems like any UK members should be able to buy these model 8VET complete

missions speakers --at not much $$ over there

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 22:00

chris im highly in debt at the moment but i don't think i could ask 3 k for any box....and my m90 is the best one i have ever had after it's modifacations....(out of about 10) anyway i know if i ever sold my last m90 i would never get another,,,,3k for any box..no thanks,,,,that's about 4 months money....but if i were rich....decentmanforyou would have no chance

chris69 - 2012-02-22 22:02

I sold a pair of nice Mission speakers for $40.00 in a yard sale this summer. I forget how many watts but i think something like 60 watts each plus they came with the center sub box.
 
 
Originally Posted by redbenjoe:

seems like any UK members should be able to buy these model 8VET complete

missions speakers --at not much $$ over there

 

chris69 - 2012-02-22 22:06

Yeah i hear you loud and clear Radio. You are smart to keep a few of your favorite boombox's anyway. Don't make the same mistake i made a few years ago when i sold my dead mint Conion for $1500.00
I'l always regret that even though i though i had no choice at the time and the price seemed good. I've owned 13 total and a couple so close to mint but i've never seen another that damn good ever...
For me even when i'm broke,it's not only about the $$$
 
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:

chris im highly in debt at the moment but i don't think i could ask 3 k for any box....and my m90 is the best one i have ever had after it's modifacations....(out of about 10) anyway i know if i ever sold my last m90 i would never get another,,,,3k for any box..no thanks,,,,that's about 4 months money....but if i were rich....decentmanforyou would have no chance

 

mellymelsr - 2012-02-22 22:15

I always find the M90 vs C100 debate kinda funny. The 2 boomboxes were designed with different customers in mind. The M90 was obviously designed with the more discerning listener in mind and caters to a more upscale customer. The C100 is all brute force and lots of chrome. The M90 has a cleaner, more balanced and quality sound. it has better stereo separation and some of the best sounding highs in the business. The C100 has a more raw sound, and the power comes on strong and much earlier in the volume spectrum. I prefer quality and good sound so the M90 gets my vote. Those who prefer a more aggressive street machine will probably prefer the C100. Either way both of these boomboxes sit atop the 1 piece boombox food chain.

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 22:18

Originally Posted by Chris_69:
Yeah i hear you loud and clear Radio. You are smart to keep a few of your favorite boombox's anyway. Don't make the same mistake i made a few years ago when i sold my dead mint Conion for $1500.00
I'l always regret that even though i though i had no choice at the time and the price seemed good. I've owned 13 total and a couple so close to mint but i've never seen another that damn good ever...
For me even when i'm broke,it's not only about the $$$
 
 
Originally Posted by radio raheem:

chris im highly in debt at the moment but i don't think i could ask 3 k for any box....and my m90 is the best one i have ever had after it's modifacations....(out of about 10) anyway i know if i ever sold my last m90 i would never get another,,,,3k for any box..no thanks,,,,that's about 4 months money....but if i were rich....decentmanforyou would have no chance

 

I have come close to selling the few good boxes i have chris...meaning my whole collection.....but i have gone days without food to avoid this...(no egsageration)

 

i know i can be an over oppinioned guy at times...but i love what i have as much as anybody else...anyway i sold a fair few off to help people,CHEAP,,they only sold em

 

on in a few days...so i won't be making that mistake again...(touch wood)

 

mellymelsr - 2012-02-22 22:21

...as for my recommendation on a loud boombox with lots of bass that won't hurt your pockets too much, I would recommend a Lasonic TRC 931. The 2nd edition seems to be the most popular and can always be found on ebay for a couple hundred buck in pretty good condition. They are very loud and have loose woofers for a powerful bass kick. The eq can be adjusted for good sound but they are not the best built boomboxes, but they are big, have lots of chrome, and are very good on batteries.

waxer - 2012-02-22 22:56

Damn!  That must be themost post replies in the shortest time on any forum I've ever posted on, regardless of subject!

 

Many thanks for this guys, deffo some food for thought there!

 

Looking nto this deeper now! Cheers.

 

PS I'm in the UK, Kent... looking forward to boot sale season!

waxer - 2012-02-22 23:04

Guys I can't see a picture or any info on the Kaboom anywhere (except the new one)

 

Any links?  Thanks

waxer - 2012-02-22 23:08

Oh by the way, I'm after a mid 80s classic style, maybe I have seen the JVC but I don't like that style really... I'll look at some of the others suggested.

waxer - 2012-02-22 23:10

Is the Lasonic rebadged under different manufacturers?

 

Is this one?

 

http://www.ebay.de/itm/UNISEF-...a9302#ht_9570wt_1159

 

Looks like it...

radio.raheem - 2012-02-22 23:17

Originally Posted by Waxer:

Is the Lasonic rebadged under different manufacturers?

 

Is this one?

 

http://www.ebay.de/itm/UNISEF-...a9302#ht_9570wt_1159

 

Looks like it...

It's not a lasonic but it's basically the same thing,,,,not mega loud or bassy......but it has volume and bass....good starting block....i have one and it's a keeper... btw welcome aboard mate...happy hunting

waxer - 2012-02-22 23:38

Originally Posted by Chris_69:
I think you are a hardcore old school only collector like me and nobody seems to understand that you are not asking about kabooms or 3 piece units lol
 
 
EXACTLY!!!

stereo.mad - 2012-02-23 01:42

Originally Posted by Waxer:

I'm on the prowl for a nice box... I was looking for a GF777z or similar, of course the JVC m90 or the Big Ben or Conion... the usual grails... but due to funds & the fun of grabbing a bargain, I'm looking into single cassette boxes that are plain LOUD & big on bass...

 

Opinions on a box??  Thanks

hi,if it was my money i would go for the sharp gf9494...they look retro,nice heavy solid box,sound good and you can pick one up for less than £100 if you look hard enough

deliverance - 2012-02-23 02:07

for around £100 the 9494 is a belter for sure,  the kaboom i bought for £28 is a real surprise i pick up a dt-680 tonight from nottingham so i will find what thats like later fair drive to pick it up   

chris69 - 2012-02-23 02:41

Sorry i got excited hahaha!!!  As always when the Conion and M90'S are named in the same topic
 
 
 
Originally Posted by Waxer:

Damn!  That must be themost post replies in the shortest time on any forum I've ever posted on, regardless of subject!

 

Many thanks for this guys, deffo some food for thought there!

 

Looking nto this deeper now! Cheers.

 

PS I'm in the UK, Kent... looking forward to boot sale season!

 

chris69 - 2012-02-23 03:02

You hit the nail on the head there Mellymelsr! I could have worded it better. Both are at top of the boombox food chain but they were designed for different customers in mind. Alot of people don't realize this but there there are tons of shortwave collectors out there (alot more than boombox collectors) and you would be surprised at how many of them want the M90 for obvious reasons. SW collectors are a serious bunch and with the big collectors $$ is not an issue. The M90 has a nice clean balanced sound and very loud where as the CONION is agressive,flashy and a true street machine in every sense. I might go for another m90 someday when the price goes back down to a reasonable level but there is no way that any boombox is worth the $3000.00 that they have been selling for lately.
 
Originally Posted by mellymelsr:

I always find the M90 vs C100 debate kinda funny. The 2 boomboxes were designed with different customers in mind. The M90 was obviously designed with the more discerning listener in mind and caters to a more upscale customer. The C100 is all brute force and lots of chrome. The M90 has a cleaner, more balanced and quality sound. it has better stereo separation and some of the best sounding highs in the business. The C100 has a more raw sound, and the power comes on strong and much earlier in the volume spectrum. I prefer quality and good sound so the M90 gets my vote. Those who prefer a more aggressive street machine will probably prefer the C100. Either way both of these boomboxes sit atop the 1 piece boombox food chain.