it does....i have one of the channels working now on radio...the reason one of the channels went down was because the record lever (metal was floating round) but im sending it soon to be repaired

er whatever happened to hifi tom??? that guy knew quality.....he was one of the few that didn't think much of boxes like the m90....the kaboom dp200 is a winner so is the rotel guys

disappeared into nowhere. otherwise he would have approved of my choice: telefunken hifi studio 1m

that is a big yess......the studio was his number2 his number 1 was the rotel......he heard the kaboom and liked it said the bass was outstanding which it is.....just a shame he nor many people have heard the dp 100 200....don't need an m90 after these boxes.....i have had over 10 and i know which is best

the panasonic 990  looks alot like the rx dt680.  I own the 680 and I do like the sound out of it when its on the floor.   Big difference on the bass from it being on the floor vs sitting on the shelf.   The 680 out of my vollection is one of my personal faves on sound quality followed by jvs pc5 / 55

ey up stranger990 680 same box  1 without cd.....have 3.....the 55 is a personal grail of mine ej but it just doesn't have deep enough bass

agree on the deep bass but, the mids are clean!   LOL the 5 instead of the 55 has a hair more bass to it.

i agree...back when i first joined brian the 5 was the first box i bought to go with my kabooms....remember those days bro

well the studio m1 is MY favorite 

for the sake of truth, however, i must point out that on February 5, 2008 8:09 PM, hifi tom wrote: "I got the Rotel RMP-10 and it's not the best - the best box is the Telefunken M1"

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It was a while ago wasnt it  lol on the old forum or "style"

I am still around  i just lerk alot. 

well ether way all these boxes are better than the m90 imho i have a studio too..

hey ej yea that must be like 10 yrs ago now hehe...were getting old son

for those of you that have never owned or heard a philips d8614 i think you would be very surprised. in my opinion they really do sound amazing, iv'e played all genres of music on mine and have never heard a box quiet like it for it's size.....invest in one guys trust me.

I've just bought some of the later Technics SB-M500M2 floor standing speakers

Wondered how good some of the Technics speakers are as I always went for Makes like AR, Mission, Celestion etc makers that mainly build speakers

So far I have only had them connected to the Technics SA-C05, I am blown away by the sound quality that comes from the Technics, The speakers are amazing sound too, the bass is stomping considering it's just a Boombox, you wouldn't know it was a portable, sounds as good as any amps i've heard, the bass is very nice deep soft bass

Need to try them on the Technics SU-7 amp with superbass next.

Hi there,

I'm wondering what's the actual output power (DIN Watts) of some of those best sounding boomboxes: JVC M90, Panasonic DT75, DT680, DS10.

I think that all those boomboxes that doesn't have any closed acoustic box for every speaker (like any HIFI speaker has) can't sound equal to other similar that have it. Panasonic did it so well with many models like the DT75 in this area, because they have it (although I don't like that strange mix of up to three speakers in each side. I believe that that is a result of the marketing department and not the sound engineering experts...

I believe also that the M90 doesn't have this internal design, does it?

spanner in the works time.......best sounding boombox?my gf575.....45 watts of pure thumping bass coursing through the veins

the philips d8614 is one box i have never heard.   They don't seem to come up too often around here! 

They are great boxes EJ apart from the dreaded broken deck problem

Panasonic RX-A2 10 D cells 15 wpc = watts per channel 8" woofers 2" tweeters

IMG_0136 Panasonic RX-A2 Blue 15wpc on 10 D batteries portable Studio what more do you need !!!

Best box I've ever heard goes to the Tisonic Pro7000 this box was shot down in the movie "do the right thing" I've had many boomboxes of the 90s from Sony Cfd560 to Fisher and aiwa all of my boomboxes WERE huge boxes also had all Panasonic which are KNOWN to sound great with the bi amped system I once had a lasonic 922 that sounded ok but I couldn't never get the deck right so I trashed it which I regret but anyway after years of boombox history and studying the history of each grail model I purchase my ti sonic on eBay I wanted a promaxj1 but couldn't find one of the condition I wanted so I settled after restoring THE box to meant condition iv purchased new cassettes to test sound AND I can honestly say the box sounds amazing it has all the bells n whistles for eq adjustment as well as tape mode and mono stereo setting it's one of the first booboxes iv open to find all 3 speakers are there and wired to work not just for show it's not the hardest hitting but I haft to say when it comes to clarity you d be hard pressed to beat the Tisonic pr7000 I'd PUT mine up against a promax intersound Wateva any day��

Teknicotic 3 posted:

Best box I've ever heard goes to the Tisonic Pro7000 this box was shot down in the movie "do the right thing" I've had many boomboxes of the 90s from Sony Cfd560 to Fisher and aiwa all of my boomboxes WERE huge boxes also had all Panasonic which are KNOWN to sound great with the bi amped system I once had a lasonic 922 that sounded ok but I couldn't never get the deck right so I trashed it which I regret but anyway after years of boombox history and studying the history of each grail model I purchase my ti sonic on eBay I wanted a promaxj1 but couldn't find one of the condition I wanted so I settled after restoring THE box to meant condition iv purchased new cassettes to test sound AND I can honestly say the box sounds amazing it has all the bells n whistles for eq adjustment as well as tape mode and mono stereo setting it's one of the first booboxes iv open to find all 3 speakers are there and wired to work not just for show it's not the hardest hitting but I haft to say when it comes to clarity you d be hard pressed to beat the Tisonic pr7000 I'd PUT mine up against a promax intersound Wateva any day��

Well I will just have to make and or include another comparison video of The Tisonic or Trident both I have versus the M90 and the Telefunken Studio 1M and Kaboom and the Bose box thing, before I ship out the (Telefunken Studio 1M)

I have both the M90 and the Tisonic (aka Prosonic PQR 9850) and on batteries the M90 is by far the winner. I've not heard the Rotel , Panny, Kaboom or the Telefunken but I can only comment on what I've heard.

The Prosonic (Tisonic/ Trident) has very clear midtones but loses it's punch beyond 5 on the volume. Bass becomes muddled and  below that it's OK at best but I will say it's clarity is surprising.  The Filter/ Loudness function makes the sound almost distant but is not a bad feature coupled with the bass and treble controls.The 90 is smooth and kicks it's sound at any volume. JVC really matched the speakers well on this box.

If my house was burning down, I'd save the Prosonic second last. My Mother In Law will just have to wait her turn

My picks would be:

Panasonic RX-C300-2 - Very loud (loudest unit I have @ 30W per channel) with extremely clean sound and punchy bass that you can feel in your shoes. 

JVC PC-55C - Very loud (nipping at the Panny's heels @ 27W per channel) and though the kick bass is a tad shy, the speakers produce the low end pleasantly and the unit sounds amazing overall.

Sharp GF-777Z - Very loud and clear. The strongest kick bass punch of any unit I have.  Not very good with the 808 bass lines though.

My recently acquired JVC RC-M70C - For a mid-sized unit, it would be hard to beat the sound this thing produces.  Very loud and clean.  After hearing this unit, there's no doubt in my mind the M90 would be the best sounding one piece unit on batteries.

**Not sure how efficient any of these are on batteries with volume cranked**

Don't worry about the Telefunken on batteries.

The Germans from Telefunken actually shrunk a home system and used a 2X30W RMS amp for this model when used on main. However on batteries it only uses 2X4W, in order not to drain the cells instantly. This makes the Telefunken an average unit on batteries, but a m90 blaster on mains...so, it shouldn't be considered for this topic.

The RX A2 however was all made with mobility in mind

I like the Prosonic looks, but let's face it, it is quite on the budget side, not in the same league as the previously mentioned high end models.

My Sony FH 207 has gone up against the Rotel and the Telefunken...smoked them both on power and sound....quite easily.

NevOne posted:

Don't worry about the Telefunken on batteries.

The Germans from Telefunken actually shrunk a home system and used a 2X30W RMS amp for this model when used on main. However on batteries it only uses 2X4W, in order not to drain the cells instantly. This makes the Telefunken an average unit on batteries, but a m90 blaster on mains...so, it shouldn't be considered for this topic.

Where do you have this Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M brochure information from?  Can you share this ( Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M brochure ) information that you have?

I would like to know more about the amplification workings of this Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M

Telefunken Studio is flat out the best sounding "vintage box" period.  Way better than Kabooms which have no highs to speak of.  And who cares that it doesn't make much power on batteries.  That wasn't the original question. 

And the best-sounding midsize is the M9994 (not the M70).

Lav Loo posted:

for those of you that have never owned or heard a philips d8614 i think you would be very surprised. in my opinion they really do sound amazing, iv'e played all genres of music on mine and have never heard a box quiet like it for it's size.....invest in one guys trust me.

 

I have to say, I got a D8634 which is the same thing as a D8614, and I wasn't impressed.  It has decent bass, but it doesn't have much highs.  I can't hear anything from the tweeters, so they are either dead or aren't built very well.  They are pizeos after all, and pizeos are known to die after a certain amount of use.

JamesRC550 posted:

Where do you have this Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M brochure information from?  Can you share this ( Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M brochure ) information that you have?

I would like to know more about the amplification workings of this Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M

That is no official information (as far as I know) , it is only what my repair guy has told me after recapping the beast and seeing the components/schema.

Reli posted:

Telefunken Studio is flat out the best sounding "vintage box" period.  Way better than Kabooms which have no highs to speak of.  And who cares that it doesn't make much power on batteries.  That wasn't the original question. 

And the best-sounding midsize is the M9994 (not the M70).

^ I like this answer.  Sad for me that I sold the Sanyo M9994 way back when before I could really appreciate it's sound, though the model I had, had issue's with the tuning of the radio, it really did sound quite good with a full rich sound, though not a loud box but a very good sounding box given it's size.

And it's the best-built midsize too, IMO.  M70 is second-rate due to its crude sliders that often fail, and its loose-feeling, plastic toggle switches.

If I sound like a dick, hey, we should all be free to speak our opinion, as it is just opinion.  None of us designed any of these boxes, therefore you shouldn't be offended if I critique it.  The M9994 isn't perfect either, it isn't the most exciting looking box, and it has what looks like water (glue) behind the meter glass.

NevOne posted:

JamesRC550 posted:

Where do you have this Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M brochure information from?  Can you share this ( Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M brochure ) information that you have?

I would like to know more about the amplification workings of this Telefunken HIFI Studio 1M

That is no official information (as far as I know) , it is only what my repair guy has told me after recapping the beast and seeing the components/schema.

Another example of this big difference in power is the Telefunken HP-800.  It puts out 12 watts per channel on AC, but only 3 watts per channel on batteries, according to the service manual.

mellymelsr posted:

My Sony FH 207 has gone up against the Rotel and the Telefunken...smoked them both on power and sound....quite easily.

i have the 207 melly, nice box, you need the fh909 lad, smokes the 207 in sound quality and louder too 

I haven't heard a M90 or that Telefunken, but from the ones I've listened to, the very best is the STRASSER CSD-SR8, knowed as AIWA outside Japan. It was the most advanced boombox that this brand made in their whole history.

It's the only one I've heard that doesn's sound as a boombox, but as a mini-hifi. The naturality and 'punchyness' of the bass, cristal-clear highs and the 10.000cc independent resonance box for each channel, with 2-way speakers and high power (20W DIN per side) makes a difference.

I'd put it over a Panasonic RX-DT9 (their top-of-the-line model)

the SANYO PH-WCD950

or (of course) the AIWA CSD-SR6, the smaller brother of the SR8, RX-DT680

any Kaboom I've heard and many other as well as most of the cheap combos (I mean mini hi-fi  that seemed separated modules that in fact were one piece) that were popular in the 90s from many brands.

Well, is just my opinion...

redbenjoe posted:

Rotel # 10 is spectacular

I agree! The Rotel is stuffed with high quality components and build like like an old tube radio with a metal frame. Its a single insulated boombox without earth protection so I hardly dare to touch it when its on AC Its just slightly less powerful on batteries and the sound is just unheard good for a boombox! I'm happy to have two of them. The #10 and the Nikko NPS-50 aka. I use mine about 90% of time on batts.

The most "super sound" boxes I ever heard, are three (or more) pieces (mostly).

Nothing can approach the RX-A2 in quallity and output.

Cheers.

Reli posted:

Telefunken Studio is flat out the best sounding "vintage box" period.  Way better than Kabooms which have no highs to speak of.  And who cares that it doesn't make much power on batteries.  That wasn't the original question. 

And the best-sounding midsize is the M9994 (not the M70).

Not having either of these units you've mentioned here, I will have to take your word for it.  However, if you're going to express an "opinion" then I would avoid making it seem like such an absolute.  In other words, the way you worded your reply was more a statement of "Opinions matter not.  I'm right and you're wrong."   I understand the gripes you have with the M70 but on the page regarding the same unit from your site it reads :

"The JVC RC-M70 boombox sits just under the JVC RC-M90 model rung within JVC's boombox lineup. It is quite possibly the single best medium sized boombox ever in terms of the whole package deal. No other boombox offers the size, power, features, performance, looks, and availability as this particular model offers. It's ubiquitous quality means you never have to look far to find this in any internet search. Although HiFi enthusiasts would likely never mention the JVC name when discussing the best home audio gear manufacturers, it is a different world when discussing the portable stereo line. JVC's quality is clearly up there amongst the other top vendors. This particular model is a perfect example of what one seeking a quality boombox would ask for. Great looks, great performance, portability, auxillary inputs and outputs for flexibility, power to spare for external speakers, sensitive tuner, very reliable tape mechanism, and sturdy construction."

I have no doubt you know your stuff regarding these units, but do you see a bit of a contradiction between the text above and your disposition regarding the unit here?  I'm not trying to be a "dick" either and I've also heard great things about the M9994.  I also agree with your points regarding the  build quality and the images I've seen of them make that obvious.  That said, the M70 has its own reputation for the better sides of it and it didn't get that reputation by being a piece of junk.

radio raheem posted:

mellymelsr posted:

My Sony FH 207 has gone up against the Rotel and the Telefunken...smoked them both on power and sound....quite easily.

i have the 207 melly, nice box, you need the fh909 lad, smokes the 207 in sound quality and louder too 

That's interesting considering the amps and output are exactly the same. Last 909 I heard had same volume and sound quality to my ears. My 207 looks new out of the box, maybe yours has issues.

radio raheem posted:

i have heard all kinds of music on the kaboom chris lad....i like classical for egsample....it sounds fantastic.....the highs are not shrill as you say

Reading through this thread again and it's the usual argument of this 'smokes' that, jeesus, have we seriously not been here like 1,000 times?  On a more serious note, can I draw your attention to my dear friend Reno's spelling of the word 'example'. 

I love you man.

It's actually a zombie thread from 2012 and quite funny we're reliving this topic again.

The National Rx-a2 then the Helix 4635. 

Boeingman777 posted:

Reli posted:

Telefunken Studio is flat out the best sounding "vintage box" period.  Way better than Kabooms which have no highs to speak of.  And who cares that it doesn't make much power on batteries.  That wasn't the original question. 

And the best-sounding midsize is the M9994 (not the M70).

Not having either of these units you've mentioned here, I will have to take your word for it.  However, if you're going to express an "opinion" then I would avoid making it seem like such an absolute.  In other words, the way you worded your reply was more a statement of "Opinions matter not.  I'm right and you're wrong."   I understand the gripes you have with the M70 but on the page regarding the same unit from your site it reads :

"The JVC RC-M70 boombox sits just under the JVC RC-M90 model rung within JVC's boombox lineup. It is quite possibly the single best medium sized boombox ever in terms of the whole package deal. No other boombox offers the size, power, features, performance, looks, and availability as this particular model offers. It's ubiquitous quality means you never have to look far to find this in any internet search. Although HiFi enthusiasts would likely never mention the JVC name when discussing the best home audio gear manufacturers, it is a different world when discussing the portable stereo line. JVC's quality is clearly up there amongst the other top vendors. This particular model is a perfect example of what one seeking a quality boombox would ask for. Great looks, great performance, portability, auxillary inputs and outputs for flexibility, power to spare for external speakers, sensitive tuner, very reliable tape mechanism, and sturdy construction."

I have no doubt you know your stuff regarding these units, but do you see a bit of a contradiction between the text above and your disposition regarding the unit here?  I'm not trying to be a "dick" either and I've also heard great things about the M9994.  I also agree with your points regarding the  build quality and the images I've seen of them make that obvious.  That said, the M70 has its own reputation for the better sides of it and it didn't get that reputation by being a piece of junk.

Wiki Boombox isn't my site, I just post stuff on it.  And that quote about the M70 isn't mine......Superduper wrote that one. 

As for opinions, yeah......it's all just opinion.  So even if I or anyone else says "this box is the best......period", it should be obvious to everyone that it's just an opinion, since there is no way to scientifically prove that a box is "best", since "best" is just personal preference. 

Hey Reli, Someone told me his 5350 was louder than a m90. Is that true? You've heard plenty of boxes. Which vintage radio is the loudest? Not pertaining to Bass just loudness.

Reli posted:

Wiki Boombox isn't my site, I just post stuff on it.  And that quote about the M70 isn't mine......Superduper wrote that one. 

 

Ah, gotcha.  Well in any case, I'm now more encouraged to be on the lookout for a M9994.   I'm going to have to build on to the house if this keeps up.....

rmrexp posted:

Hey Reli, Someone told me his 5350 was louder than a m90. Is that true? You've heard plenty of boxes. Which vintage radio is the loudest? Not pertaining to Bass just loudness.

I've never heard them side by side, so I dunno.  But I'm sure someone here does!  

Boeingman777 posted:

Reli posted:

Wiki Boombox isn't my site, I just post stuff on it.  And that quote about the M70 isn't mine......Superduper wrote that one. 

 

Ah, gotcha.  Well in any case, I'm now more encouraged to be on the lookout for a M9994.   I'm going to have to build on to the house if this keeps up.....

The M9994 reeks of quality, I think it's one of the best-built 1-pieces.  I mean, those knobs are just killer.  And the way the tape keys feel, OMG........

At low volume, I think it sounds better than the M70........Just a bit warmer and more precise.  But when you crank them up, the M70 takes over.

And you were right, my earlier post sounded a bit arrogant.  The tone was wrong.  Sorry guys!