vladi123456 - 2008-01-29 08:15
Just got an email from ebay. Some welcome changes - reduced listing fees and FEEDBACK changes - yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's parts of the email I got:
Reduced Listing Fees
You asked, we listened. We're reducing Insertion Fees and adjusting Final Value Fees to lower your up-front cost to sell on eBay. You wanted free Gallery, now you've got it--plus more feature discounts.
Lower Insertion Fees
Feedback Changes
Significant changes coming soon will increase buyer confidence and showcase good sellers.
Buyers will only be able to receive positive Feedback.
Positive repeat customer Feedback will count and Feedback more than 12 months old won't.
Negative and neutral Feedback left by the buyer will be removed for transactions in which a buyer doesn't respond to the Unpaid Item (UPI) or if the member is suspended.
That's very interesting. I really like the part of positive feedback for repeat customers!
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-29 08:34
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Feedback left by the buyer will be removed for transactions in which a buyer doesn't respond to the Unpaid Item (UPI) or if the member is suspended.
This is a welcome change because the threat of retalitory feedback keeps a lot of buyers from posting negative feedback for flaky buyers.
Funny though, ebay must be feeling some pressure from somewhere, is it from the legal community maybe?
The lower insertiaon fees are terrific. If you read carefully you will see that their plan to offset things is to INCREASE the final value fees. You know that they would never make a move for them which would cause them to lose money. They figure "let everyone list cheaply" storage is cheap enough these days. But they will compensate on the back end.
Well....for one thing - Ebay CEO just resigned a few days ago.
Second - as Brian said - lower listing fees = higher final fees.
And last but not least - only positive buyer's feedback is great, but it's only good for 12 months. And then what - I'll be a zero feedback user again if I don't buy/sell anything??????
Just looked. final value fees at the low end will jump from 5.25% to 8.75%
Not bad, they lower the insertion fee by a nickel and add 3.5% to the back end.
"You asked....We listened!" lol BS!!!
Add the paypal fees etc...
Might as well skip it. One way or another they make sure you end up with the short end of the stick. Personally I prefered it w/ the 5%. That was enough. They know they will make more money this way. It's obvious. Heck they should let everyone list for free. TONS more people will list items then, and they will get 8.75% of the final value fee of everything. Great plan. Let's open an auction site!!
Whatever..... I'll keep my S#IT. lol
Holy f**k! I didn't look at the Final Value fees before. Ebay is so full of sh!t. I was thinking of posting some stuff on there to get a little bit of spending money, but not now! I'll strictly be a buyer on eBay - that is until they start assessing "convenience" charges on buyers like Ticketmaster. You know it's coming. It's just a matter of when...
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-29 09:29
quote:
Originally posted by bashngu:
Just looked. final value fees at the low end will jump from 5.25% to 8.75%
Not bad, they lower the insertion fee by a nickel and add 3.5% to the back end.
"You asked....We listened!" lol BS!!!
Add the paypal fees etc...
Might as well skip it. One way or another they make sure you end up with the short end of the stick. Personally I prefered it w/ the 5%. That was enough. They know they will make more money this way. It's obvious. Heck they should let everyone list for free. TONS more people will list items then, and they will get 8.75% of the final value fee of everything. Great plan. Let's open an auction site!!
Whatever..... I'll keep my S#IT. lol
Holly Cr@p I didn't catch that, it figures though. Everybody is looking to rape people for more money, there is no such thing as a fair profit anymore is there? So how is this going to work with shipping costs practically doubling over the last several years? Looks like selling on ebay combined with shipping is going to get to expensive, especially for items like boomboxes.
Well maybe greed will eventually cause ebay to implode. Probably not as buyers seem to have insanely deep pockets, not me but some buyers.
quote:
Originally posted by Fatdog:
That's very interesting. I really like the part of positive feedback for repeat customers!
Same here, why should the number stay low for repeats? Each transaction should count as a + or -
Its about time.
jaredscottfla - 2008-01-29 09:46
overall i think the chg will be for the better,the system sucks now
panasonic.fan - 2008-01-29 10:08
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Buyers will only be able to receive positive Feedback.
Huh?
quote:
Positive repeat customer Feedback will count and Feedback more than 12 months old won't.
What the hell is that all about? My seven plus years on Ebay with excellent feedback, all but wiped out?
All of the bad feedback on sellers like Vlad has that future buyers should be
WEARY of, removed so that it cannot be read?
To be fair, his positive feedback for several years, not there to contrast against the negative?
I think they need to explain these changes in more detail, and FAR in advance of any change. Otherwise, they risk losing many, many customers.
Hey, check me out - this is my very first thread that made it to a sticky - is it almost time to release a coin with my portrait engraved???
all ebay needs is some tough competition to lower their prices. maybe after several hundred millions in lost money it will put some sense into them.
eBay doesn't give a rat's ass about complaints from sellers or buyers because they know that no matter how much they increase the fees, there will always be people buying and selling. Fees could be raised 500% - people would biatch and complain - and then go right on selling and buying. Ebay knows this.
Well said fatdog.
masterblaster84 - 2008-01-29 15:46
quote:
Originally posted by Fatdog:
eBay doesn't give a rat's ass about complaints from sellers or buyers because they know that no matter how much they increase the fees, there will always be people buying and selling. Fees could be raised 500% - people would biatch and complain - and then go right on selling and buying. Ebay knows this.
Yep, the truth has been spoken!!!
So, as crazy as it sounds, we have enough tech people on here to start our own type of auction site......
masterblaster84 - 2008-02-14 08:35
Ernie, are you talking about a full auction site or a specialized auctionclassified site like Audiogon?
I think that's an interesting idea, maybe something like a vintage electronics auction site. In any case some auction sites should be able to use this major ebay fee mess to gain some ground on ebay.
If you want to start something like that, now would be the best time. Alot of people are going to be looking for alternatives to eBay.
So it started.....Has anybody noticed reduction of their feedback yet?????
Yesterday I received an offer for one of my boomboxes, and the guy's feedback was 13. I went to look at his feedback in detail, and it says Feedback 13, all feedback 24. So the guy has lost almost half of his positive feedback because the rest of it was more than a year old. Basically, they MAKE you use ebay, and if you dont - you become a zero feedback user after 12 months of inactivity - what the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
masterblaster84 - 2008-02-27 08:16
Vladi, here's the flip side to that.
What if a horrible seller who had an 85% positive feedback rate does very little trading for a year and only has 15 positive feedbacks for the whole year then decides to sell a whole bunch of stuff. If you don't look deep enough it looks like you have a 100% feedback seller and your comfortable. Then the nightmare seller strikes and you start having the same trouble all of the discounted feedback was warning about. You've just been tricked by the wonderful revamped ebay feedback system.
So this makes me wonder if ebay isn't doing this to try to make sellers look better than they are in order to maximize sales prices and in return increase their fees.
Ya, I was about to say that. Basically, I can unload a bunch of crap once a year, and then just wait 12 months and do it again. Open 12 ebay accounts, and do it every month. That was some major horrible idea on ebay part.
But all that aside - I am more concerned about my feedback - I have thirty two 100% positive feedbacks. And a year from now I am going to be a zero feedback user again????? Unless I keep using ebay? I'm a little upset with them right now
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masterblaster84 - 2008-02-27 09:18
Well Vladi I guess that means you will have to continue to sell all of your boxes to us for $.12.
To many questions with this new system, I'm not sure it's any better. Maybe different is all we can say.
This is the cost of running a good online auction site.
Stop complaining.
All other auction sites are shady.
panasonic.fan - 2013-07-05 13:51
You responded to posts in a thread from 65 months ago.....
lmao...
Originally Posted by Panasonic Fan:
You responded to posts in a thread from 65 months ago.....
Nowt wrong with that even if the thread is starting to smell due to age 
Blimey. That must have been one of my last posts, before i started being ill. Weird.
those were the days!!!
Yes, they were... 
Seemed so much easier then.
