James Pierce - I hope this was an error . . .
claret.badger - 2011-12-19 18:45
. . . . on your behalf - because it is beyond belief you would stiff someone 300 snaps
for a box that has blatantly been "butchered" by someone else - and in my eyes doesn't seem worth more that 30 - and you should have let them know about the "condition".
I am fuming after reading what happened to this poor guy - and I REALLY hope it is a misunderstanding chap - and you give him a partial if not FULL refund - you do yourself NO favors if you don't.
Sorry if this seems out of line - but 300!!
radio.raheem - 2011-12-19 18:48
ehh what....that's a 30 quid box fully working
retrodos - 2011-12-19 19:22
I watch some of James "Decentman4you" youtube channel when he sent me a email a while ago and notice he switches speakers out, instead of refoaming them, if the surrounds are shot? All you have to do is replace the surrounds and glue and notice tape speed is off, on alot of his boxes, you suppose to use a 1 KHz reference tone when adjusting speed and aligning tape heads. So not so surprise, If it true what you said in the email, why would you have 8 of the same model boxes in your youtube listing? No serious collector overpays for a box, 8 times, it just greed, you rush hacked boxes out the door, just to get paided. Nothing wrong with trying to make a buck, but be reasonable about it, not ask the price of a small car and crap work.
For anyone else reading this I asked him, what he wanted for the JVC RC-550JW new in the box, he came back with $2100!!
stretch - 2011-12-19 20:37
Hey,
I want to thank Claret Badger for starting this thread as it just gets things out in the open.
I've attached some pics of tonight, but I could have taken more. In the first pic you see the droopy tweeter which prompted my inquiry into the box to find the issue. Had that tweeter remained in its normal position, I would have never known what was inside this box until much later.
The screw boss was snapped off which holds the tweeter down on one side, as were many other screw posts inside which were either cracked, broken, or completely missing!
One screw hole piece was broken off the tuning arm aperture, and to my larger dismay, there was a big crack which had been crapily repaired around the antenna. I wanted a good backed M50 and this unit is STILL shitty. I removed the tweeter and woofer, and found thick blue spray paint greeting me.
So much for that pretty blue which I thought was original beautiful speakers. I removed some of it and the underlying cone was even more faded than my other M50!
I'm currently taking the best pieces of the 2 units and making one better one, but I still don't have a crack-free back case which is shitty.
Ah well, what can I do.
eric
redbenjoe - 2011-12-19 21:02
very sorry this happened to your eric
since you TRUSTED a member here --
and sent $300 with no ebay or paypal protection-
then you will only end up with a decent deal -
if this member makes this ALL up to you -- and FAST
--------------------
for starters --
give him the momentary benefit of the doubt...
ie - you dont want to hear any song $ dance about
his financial woes --or about how much he paid --
or about you-tubes -- or about how many boxes he has -
and all that usual crap
instead - you have every decent right to expect
immediate decent treatment -
starting NOW
hope this works out
ao - 2011-12-19 23:10
This is awful.
James, you comment on every other post, I take it you haven't seen this one yet?
deliverance - 2011-12-20 04:10
jesus i am surprised that is not on lets hope james resolves it.
claret.badger - 2011-12-20 04:42
i'm sure it is an honest mistake
James seems to be parting his collection - and maybe something slipped thru the quality net.
isolator42 - 2011-12-20 05:30
...James, you comment on every other post, I take it you haven't seen this one yet?
Whilst I'm sorry for your plight, Eric, this comment made me smile...
Hope you get it sorted.
James, the ball is in your court, it seems...
at Claret Badger - Since this is from Boomboxery - How do I respond to this on that website to atone for this mishap? Answer me this FIRST !! ok?
Evidently this started on Boomboxery - where I have NO Say, No Reply, No Voice! No rebuttal
(boomboxery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13329&p=164756#p164756)
and I not a memeber there - So for starter's this should have been Kept over there! & not brought over here to STG.
Since you Just recieved this - in the mail with tracking, and only Hours have gone by since Your Email to me that you have this in your possesion now;
I Honestly didn't know of any issues of this JVC RC-M50W since i took the pictures of it that I sent to you via email back when near the beginning of November 2011 and none untill you recieved this.
I would have Appreciated to have had the Ability to solve or rectify this in a timely manner via email's; or on the telephone as we both have each other's telephone number - (ONE on ONE) = (Eric + James) and now?
at reno - Hi reno.
at retrodos - so nice of you to NOT respond to my Individual email (sent 09 December 2011) - but pop up here in this thread saying all "this"? that you have NO first-hand knowledge about. (All you have to do is...and the rest of your yadda and supposed Professionalism.)?
at stretch eric Ah well, what can I do - = What you should have done was to contact me First via email - rather than - I guess - talking this up on boomboxery where I am not a member unless Mr. Claret Badger Can allow me to Become a Member there @ Boomboxery dot com via Bobby Jenkins and make this happen for me! So I can correct my mistakes, there on that website First! since that is where this all Began.
at Ira F. - I am working on this asap.
at agent orange - sent you a email - that I have seen this - and this is my first responce.
at deliverance - am hoping this to be resolved soon
at Claret Badger - thanks for that.
at isolator42 - here goes..
To All: I would Prefer to have settled this Privately - as I Think I should have been allowed to do having had the time to do so
Since this is a First Known issue to All out in the open on the GLOBAL Internet within Hours of this person recieving this box from me - dont know what to do now ( I do Know that something Should be done & will be )
However now - am Now open to suggestions as reasonable as YOU would take care of this as YOU are walking in these Size 14 Shoes here for this situation.
Remember Now the suggestion's needed are to be understood as YOU Would Do them as YOU have Just had YOUR (Honest Mistake ) BROADCAST TO THE WORLD within mere hour's of Learning of having made a mistake ok?
I guess I need to wait for all of the suggestion's to dribble in and Slow down this tranaction before I can do any action, as whatever action I do has to be approved by the Global community as a Whole as now everybody is now going to look at this page and see what just happened.
This Could have been solved Very Quickly privately via email and/or? and now? - jes shaking my head...
Below this Intial comment on this from ME:
1. Constructive Criticism suggestions will be Sincerely considered and possiblely replied to, and or acted upon.
2. All Deragatory comment's will be Ignored.
3. That is all.
claret.badger - 2011-12-20 06:04
300 bucks for a box with painted speakers - and internal f**kery?
come now James - *line removed"
no matter what forum this started on - what happens on the internet is not private - it is up for public critique.
You know why you are banned from the "other" forum
You have the floor - do positive things with it
Blessings to all
redbenjoe - 2011-12-20 06:13
for once -- i agree with james -
that this serious matter could be resolved in private between members-
and the faster its done -- the better for both parties-
since public suggestions are now asked for --
my 2 cents ......send eric US$100 --and move on to the next
sale or purchase or topic
hope that all happens
300 bucks for a box with painted speakers - and internal f**kery?
come now James - *line removed"
no matter what forum this started on - what happens on the internet is not private - it is up for public critique.
You know why you are banned from the "other" forum
You have the floor - do positive things with it
Blessings to all
Bought this 01 Nov 2008, listened to it, put on shelf, ( never opened it ) then sold it - as I recieved it.
Was Never Banned from 'other' forum - never there as a member cant be banned from a place that i don't belong to - however on fb done that way - and I have simply ignored that snobbery... and gone Forward in Life
for once -- i agree with james -
that this serious matter could be resolved in private between members-
and the faster its done -- the better for both parties-
since public suggestions are now asked for --
my 2 cents ......send eric US$100 --and move on to the next
sale or purchase or topic
hope that all happens
ok are we ALL in aggreement here?
Guess I need to wait at least a day or so...
or ???
of course now we have to wait for the rest to chime in ....
claret.badger - 2011-12-20 06:26
my mistake
James - you NEED to work this out with Eric in private
If this remains in the public domain - you risk the kind of puerile backlash that I have exhibited
I personally think 100 bucks derisery - and think a full refund minus postage
but that is up to Eric to demand - not I
it is up to YOUR goodwill
redbenjoe - 2011-12-20 06:30
NO -- !! james ---there is no reason to stall this for several days or months -
'waiting for 100 public replies'
i dont know eric --
we can tell from his posts that he is a very reasonable guy -
just send him a private dialog -
i bet the $100 offer will be very welcome.
ao - 2011-12-20 06:33
The right thing would have been for both parties to have discussed this issue prior to it being laid out here (and there) for all to see.
It was the buyer's decision to post it on Boomboxery prior to contacting the seller, personally I'd have spoke to the seller first but we should respect his decision not too. Don't forget that both sites offer a 'bad sellers' or 'sellers to avoid' section so maybe it was posted in a 'hey, l messed up but others should be aware' capacity, I personally don't know but not everyone welcomes that level of confrontation.
To everybody else, myself included, let's keep our own 'take' on what we think happened to ourselves.
The seller 'appears' to want to put things right and this should be welcomed.
boomrox - 2011-12-20 06:40
my mistake
James - you NEED to work this out with Eric in private
If this remains in the public domain - you risk the kind of puerile backlash that I have exhibited I personally think 100 bucks derisery - and think a full refund minus postage
but that is up to Eric to demand - not I it is up to YOUR goodwill
You started this thread in Public -
It's not even Your transaction with me - not saying the we have one yet.
I'm in anguish over this -
wishing for a do-over.
I said more but erased it and posted just this....
radio.raheem - 2011-12-20 07:00
well good luck im sure this can be worked out between the pair of you...via pm///// i wouldn't want my laundry aired like this in public
NO -- !! james ---there is no reason to stall this for several days or months -
'waiting for 100 public replies'
i dont know eric --
we can tell from his posts that he is a very reasonable guy -
just send him a private dialog -
i bet the $100 offer will be very welcome.
Hope to have a solution by b4 xmas ( and this thread closed and satisfied ) by statements from stretch an Me.
this would be my preferred timeline.
kingrat2010 - 2011-12-20 07:06
me too, cant understand why CB put something in the public he has nothing to do with at all???
isolator42 - 2011-12-20 07:07
James, Eric, communicating privately with each other to work this out is the way to go, as I'm sure you both know
Hope it all goes well
retrodos - 2011-12-20 07:09
at retrodos - so nice of you to NOT respond to my Individual email (sent 09 December 2011) - but pop up here in this thread saying all "this"? that you have NO first-hand knowledge about. (All you have to do is...and the rest of your yadda and supposed Professionalism.)?
For one have more knowedge, when it comes to rebuilting these boxes or any electronics for fact of matter. including replacing surrounds on the speakers when they dry rot!! All you know how to do is replaced the speaker from another box? I actually go thru and replaced all electrolytic capacitors and resistor that drift out of value and align the tuner, if needed, check for motor noise and replace if necessary actually doing a full restoration, not some f**kup hack job and ask a million dollars for it!! Reson why serious collector buy "NIB" to avoid any issues, I come across way to many hack job units, i may even start posting picture of some of the crap I seen done.
I have nothing against you at all, never bought a box from you, you seem like a nice guy just trying to make a living and have some respect for that, but won't deal with you due to the prices and now this. I maybe out of line for saying all this, but really can't stand people who due bare minimum to get the item working and push it out the door for top dollar, when their actually some people that will do a full restoration. My thing is mostly camcorders and walkmans and microcassette recorders for now, my youtube channel is "retropcdos". I put some of the repairs up on my channel.
I saw how bad that JVC was and he said on the other forum you made him wait a month before the box was shipped out? Just give him a "full refund", and move pass this or sent him a different box, if you don't have money. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time, how you deal with them, show what kind of person you are!!
metad - 2011-12-20 07:14
Haha
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Boomboxery lurkers are having fun right now.
They do not like this site, hate to contribute on here, but love topics like this, some of them (by their words) find the bickering on here very entertaining, and come on here to watch the crap
--Current Visitors: 88 (Members: 15, Guests: 73)--
when you can see so many current visitors on here...
ghettoman - 2011-12-20 07:16
hey come on chaps,give james a chance,dont bash him so soon,for where i'm sat,he is willing to sort this out,hell,i've had many of ebay buys where the seller knowingly sold me a piece of crap,took my cash and skooted,and was'nt willing to sort it out,james has said he will sort it out so come on guys,give him a chance,and dont think he's an A-hole so fast,
i like james,so what he's a little different than some people,but he's still an ok guy,but seems like everyone is waiting for that one mistake,that one screw up so they can dig into him..
just give him the oppotunity to sort it out,and i agree with ira,sooner the better..give eric a parcial refund e.g $100-$150,i know its a big chunk for you to lose james but good reputation is hard to get back once you lose it..just get this done and dusted and out of the way quick as poss..
if he does'nt come though and does a runner,then i will look a right tw@t and i will have to apologize and leggit and hide for a while,so james,come on man sort it out,Do It Today !
Then Move On and forget this ever happened !!
deliverance - 2011-12-20 07:18
me too, cant understand why CB put something in the public he has nothing to do with at all???
he was only helping a fellow member out, i am sure after this james will resolve it, down to him now.
deliverance - 2011-12-20 07:21
Haha
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Boomboxery lurkers are having fun right now.
They do not like this site, hate to contribute on here, but love topics like this, some of them (by their words) find the bickering on here very entertaining, and come on here to watch the crap
--Current Visitors: 88 (Members: 15, Guests: 73)--
when you can see so many current visitors on here...
says the biggest prick on both sites .
metad - 2011-12-20 07:25
says the biggest prick on both sites .
says the filthiest mouth on here .
deliverance - 2011-12-20 07:31
metad a sad case of in breeding it cant be easy for you being your brother and sisters boy, have you ever seeked help for your affliction?
radio.raheem - 2011-12-20 07:31
hey come on chaps,give james a chance,dont bash him so soon,for where i'm sat,he is willing to sort this out,hell,i've had many of ebay buys where the seller knowingly sold me a piece of crap,took my cash and skooted,and was'nt willing to sort it out,james has said he will sort it out so come on guys,give him a chance,and dont think he's an A-hole so fast,
i like james,so what he's a little different than some people,but he's still an ok guy,but seems like everyone is waiting for that one mistake,that one screw up so they can dig into him..
just give him the oppotunity to sort it out,and i agree with ira,sooner the better..give eric a parcial refund e.g $100-$150,i know its a big chunk for you to lose james but good reputation is hard to get back once you lose it..just get this done and dusted and out of the way quick as poss..
if he does'nt come though and does a runner,then i will look a right tw@t and i will have to apologize and leggit and hide for a while,so james,come on man sort it out,Do It Today !
Then Move On and forget this ever happened !!
I agree 1000% i for one like james....i remember the time i was low...and he put the video up of his yellow car and 3 boxes...the 550 being the driver....cheered me up imencelly...best video of the year.....happy exmas james....not an apropriate time to wish it....but good luck lad....im sure it will be fine
ao - 2011-12-20 07:34
I'm going to keep this post open for now
retrodos - 2011-12-20 07:37
I give him credit where it's due, at least he responded to the thread and hopefully does the right thing. Was kind of harsh about the other comment, but that JVC was crap. You always have to check the items, before senting it out. You know how many items I bought from fleabay that people said perfect working and wasn't or missing accessories ? I stop counting a while ago!!
ghettoman - 2011-12-20 07:37
close it cris..best thing to do and best time to do it before goes the wrong way bigtime..
metad - 2011-12-20 07:38
metad a sad case of in breeding it cant be easy for you being your brother and sisters boy, have you ever seeked help for your affliction?
the plumber is trying to make diagnosis, haha, get back to your boring life mr.lowlife.
ghettoman - 2011-12-20 07:39
one last thing,i dont think a full refund is fair,any box is worth something,even in bad shape,james had to buy it in the first place,so i dont think he should just give it away for free..refund of $100-$150 would be fair,i've had worse than that,and if the sellers gave me any refund,parcial or whatever i would have been thankfull,but i got nothing..
radio.raheem - 2011-12-20 07:39
agree...better still delete it chris
ao - 2011-12-20 07:39
James deserves a fair shout, some of you aren't giving him that.
ghettoman - 2011-12-20 07:47
James deserves a fair shout, some of you aren't giving him that.
yes definately,i reckon james is feeling quite down right now,if not i bet he's feeling pretty ill over it..i would be feeling sick right now and my heart would be beating half out my chest..thats why it needs sorting asap,then everyone should have a nice beer and get the blood pressure down to a nice level..
All this carry on,is it really worth it ? is it really worth making eachother ill over it ?
deliverance - 2011-12-20 07:51
metad a sad case of in breeding it cant be easy for you being your brother and sisters boy, have you ever seeked help for your affliction?
the plumber is trying to make diagnosis, haha, get back to your boring life mr.lowlife.
best jog on dear your pimp is waiting for you .
metad - 2011-12-20 07:55
you speak in janitor's language, I do not understand you lowlife, so do not try, haha.
radio.raheem - 2011-12-20 07:58
metad....for god sake...please give it a rest
ao - 2011-12-20 07:59
Yeah, best close.
James and Stretch, good luck with this and I'd personally appreciate it if you wouldn't mind keeping myself or Retro posted on developments and shout if t[you need a mediator in any discussions.
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