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Aiwa HS-JX2000

minty - 2013-01-12 02:25

Anyone watching this auction for a HS-JX2000on eBay Germany? Item number:  190782497322. 8 days to run on the auction and already 999 euro!

ao - 2013-01-12 03:08

Very strange indeed.  Although a nice unit the JX2000 is one of those coorporate gifts that was given out to Aiwa dignitaries in the late 80's hence it nearly always shows up in the presentation box, not unlike all the WM-3's we keep seeing.  Very much a trophy for the non-walkman collector I'm afraid.

minty - 2013-01-12 03:41

I don't think it was designed as a corporate gift. It was sold alongside all other aiwa models. I bought mine in a shop many years ago. I would be sceptical about the certificate which comes with it. Mine had no such certificate.

plop - 2013-01-12 04:22

AIWA made many versions of the popular gold box sets. Some were "corporate only" gifts such as this limited edition 10 year anniversary model example we see, there was also the special commemorative Taiwan model too that passed through S2G a while ago, but later on non-limited edition versions were also available for purchase too. Slightly later ones came with a credit card sized owners card that fitted inside the carry case.

 

I would say if that is a genuine certificate, it is probably worth more with the corresponding unit, that the unit just on it's own.

 

Shame the photo of the certificate is so crappy, but then again it will probably deter fraudsters if it is the real deal.

minty - 2013-01-12 04:31

I stand corrected. I wasn't aware there was a limited edition one. I don't see any limited edition number on the walkman. Apart from the certificate, it is identical to mine. Even the box is identical. The price is a bit crazy though.

plop - 2013-01-12 04:38

It is only limited edition due to the paperwork. Minus the paperwork and it is probably near to unrecognisable from any other "10 year anniversary" edition JX2000 out there.

minty - 2013-01-13 11:57

It is really amazing how 33 non walkman collectors have so far bid on this item?

plop - 2013-01-13 13:00

Originally Posted by Minty:
It is really amazing how 33 non walkman collectors have so far bid on this item?

According to ebay, it is only 4 bidders.

 

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBa...mp;item=190782497322

 

But how do you know they are non-walkman collectors? There are two bidders who are up-bidding the price.

shugiflex - 2013-01-13 14:00

Raising the price so early is not very "professional" for eBay buyers. 

 

Makes you wonder...

minty - 2013-01-17 05:00

This auction is gone from having 33 bids to 3 bids, and halved in price. Very strange auction indeed.

plop - 2013-01-17 05:38

Originally Posted by Minty:
This auction is gone from having 33 bids to 3 bids, and halved in price. Very strange auction indeed.

Agreed. It looks like it was a combination of someone fishing to find out the reserve limit and someone else trolling to jack up the bid price.

blasterfan.jens - 2013-01-19 17:04

Originally Posted by Minty:
This auction is gone from having 33 bids to 3 bids, and halved in price. Very strange auction indeed.

und da waren es nur noch 500 Euro da hat wohl ein bieter kalte füsse bekommen oder

 

gearwheel - 2013-01-25 03:19

it ended with 999 €, and today the seller wants to offer ME the unit o.O .. i just corrected another auction text from him, and so he wrote today, that the buyer from netherland didn`t payed so far, and if i`m interested in this walkman ?

no, i`m not.. i don`t pay more than 1000 bucks for... ehrm ... THIS ...

ao - 2013-01-25 03:42

Originally Posted by gearwheel:

it ended with 999 €, and today the seller wants to offer ME the unit o.O .. i just corrected another auction text from him, and so he wrote today, that the buyer from netherland didn`t payed so far, and if i`m interested in this walkman ?

no, i`m not.. i don`t pay more than 1000 bucks for... ehrm ... THIS ...

Surprise, surprise

plop - 2013-01-25 03:55

Originally Posted by gearwheel:

it ended with 999 €, and today the seller wants to offer ME the unit o.O .. i just corrected another auction text from him, and so he wrote today, that the buyer from netherland didn`t payed so far, and if i`m interested in this walkman ?

no, i`m not.. i don`t pay more than 1000 bucks for... ehrm ... THIS ...

Well, assuming you were the next highest bidder l***2 (private), then the most he can ask from you is your maximum bid of 799€, which if you had put as your maximum bid you would have been happy to pay, no?

gearwheel - 2013-01-26 07:38

i didn`t bid on this ... i was interested in another walkman he was selling.

it`s a very nice and polite person, i wrote some msg. with him and he was happy that someone wrote him about the sony DD center gear sickness... after that, he informed me, that the 999$ bidder jumped off, and if i want to have the aiwa... but thats not, what i`m searching for atm ...

and i don`t like walkmen, that look like a fort knox device ...

cool.manchu - 2013-01-31 13:54

Regardless of the price, that is one sweet looking package! I would love to own something like that!

plop - 2013-01-31 15:19

Someone got this one in comparison for a steal (albeit without the precious numbered certificate)

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1709...id=p3984.m1423.l2649

walkman.archive - 2013-02-01 14:03

Originally Posted by plop:

Someone got this one in comparison for a steal (albeit without the precious numbered certificate)

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1709...id=p3984.m1423.l2649

Yes, this one is not a steal. I got it. Well, it's not for me, but for a friend, but I bought it for him.

Asking 999 euros for a boxed, mint unit is really an unrealistic price. But this is something that we are going to see more commonly bit by bit.

Look, for example, at this:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBa...:1123#ht_2613wt_1060

 

This is crazy. I have this watch also in my collection. It can really cost 200-300 euros.

plop - 2013-02-01 14:14

Originally Posted by Walkman Archive:

Yes, this one is not a steal. I got it. Well, it's not for me, but for a friend, but I bought it for him.

Asking 999 euros for a boxed, mint unit is really an unrealistic price. But this is something that we are going to see more commonly bit by bit.

 

I kind of guessed it was you

 

£163 GBP is a good price for a slightly beaten up 10 year anniversary boxed JX2000. It is at least one of the earlier JX2000s and will have a bi-azimuth mechanism, unlike the non 10 year anniversary JX2000 version for which some of the later ones having only the fixed head. A couple of years ago boxed JX2000 units were averaging £300 to £400, in part due to certain bidders jacking up the asking price.

 

I wore many Casio and Timex digital watches in my youth but eventually the straps on them all split and the watch was pretty much useless around the wrist. Rare to see one mint, but I agree the price asked for is extremely unreasonable. However, at least he does allow you to make an offer.

cool.manchu - 2013-02-01 15:03

The only real concern with that one you bought is the lack of volume output. Do you have the parts to fix it?

plop - 2013-02-02 00:22

Originally Posted by Cool Manchu:

The only real concern with that one you bought is the lack of volume output. Do you have the parts to fix it?

If it is low output from these AIWA, it is usually the capacitors that need replacing. The JX2000 is one of the easier AIWA models to replace them in.

walkman.archive - 2013-02-02 14:54

Originally Posted by plop:
I kind of guessed it was you

 

£163 GBP is a good price for a slightly beaten up 10 year anniversary boxed JX2000. It is at least one of the earlier JX2000s and will have a bi-azimuth mechanism, unlike the non 10 year anniversary JX2000 version for which some of the later ones having only the fixed head. A couple of years ago boxed JX2000 units were averaging £300 to £400, in part due to certain bidders jacking up the asking price.

 

I wore many Casio and Timex digital watches in my youth but eventually the straps on them all split and the watch was pretty much useless around the wrist. Rare to see one mint, but I agree the price asked for is extremely unreasonable. However, at least he does allow you to make an offer.

You have a good eye! ;-)

 

Yes, 163 is a very reasonable price. I completely agree with you: only two years ago there were much resonable prices. It looks that nowadays there are people diggin in their  closets, looking for vintage gadgets for sell at astronomic prices, probably due to the strong crysis.

I remember I bought a complete and mint JX505 (but without box) for 50 euros a few years ago...

 

The problem of the volume is not a big problem. I'm sure we can fix it sooner or later with the help of a technician.

The good is that it has the bi-azimuth mechanism, as you said :-)

 

Vintage Casio & Seiko watches are also becoming more expensive than gold! I think that they are in the same league than these rare and desired walkmans...

minty - 2013-02-06 14:51

I see this JX-2000 is back up for sale. It can be yours for the bargain price of just 1499 euro!

plop - 2013-02-06 15:19

Originally Posted by Minty:
I see this JX-2000 is back up for sale. It can be yours for the bargain price of just 1499 euro!

Go on... make an offer of 1€ and I'll beat that offer with .99€

pawel - 2013-03-28 09:27

I've bought yesterday a barely used (almost mint) hs-jx2000.
I got it a moment ago so I didn't really tested it yet,
but before I start I have a few questions:
1. are there any common issues I should be afraid of?
2. this plastic foil inside the pouch is now opaque
(and started to decay) - I'd like to replace it ,
but should I use a clear transparent foil or something else?
3. Is this fixed head a standard ? (I've read earlier it should have a bi-azimuth head)

plop - 2013-03-28 10:06

Originally Posted by pawel:
I've bought yesterday a barely used (almost mint) hs-jx2000.
I got it a moment ago so I didn't really tested it yet,
but before I start I have a few questions:
1. are there any common issues I should be afraid of?
2. this plastic foil inside the pouch is now opaque
(and started to decay) - I'd like to replace it ,
but should I use a clear transparent foil or something else?
3. Is this fixed head a standard ? (I've read earlier it should have a bi-azimuth head)

 

Common issues... same issues as per with the JX505. Old electrolytic capacitors leak and need to be replaced. Backup rechargeable battery usually needs to be replaced otherwise radio station memory is lost.

 

You can replace the failed plastic with new clear PVC film.

 

From the photos supplied, you have a fixed azimuth head. The early models had the bi-azimuth head.

 

You probably have a very late '10 Year Anniversary' model that or more likely someone has swapped some internal parts around with another JX2000 or JX505.

walkman.archive - 2013-03-28 16:47

That's true, Plop. I'm lucky to have both them.

 

AIWA Walkman HS-JX505 black 07-p

 

Here they are:

 

AIWA Walkman HS-JX505 black 10-p

pawel - 2013-03-28 17:43

the head seems to be original
the flex ribbon cable shows no signs of resoldering,
also the screws on the lid are intact - so it was not opened.
and these little screws that pushes the head are missing,
- so I guess it was manufactured as a fixed head type.

Capacitors are badly leaked, so obviously I have to replace them.

When I put fresh batteries it spins the wheels for a while and
shows the clock - but frankly does not react to any button
- is it because of the bad caps ? cause nobody messed inside  before
and all of the wiring is just perfect

plop - 2013-03-29 01:01

Originally Posted by pawel:
the head seems to be original
the flex ribbon cable shows no signs of resoldering,
also the screws on the lid are intact - so it was not opened.
and these little screws that pushes the head are missing,
- so I guess it was manufactured as a fixed head type.

Capacitors are badly leaked, so obviously I have to replace them.

When I put fresh batteries it spins the wheels for a while and
shows the clock - but frankly does not react to any button
- is it because of the bad caps ? cause nobody messed inside  before
and all of the wiring is just perfect

As all the cases are interchangeable between the international versions of the JX2000 and JX505, a previous owner may have swapped out the gold case. It is not unknown for people to do things like that for their own reasons and perhaps flip the one they don't want to an unsuspecting buyer. Such is the risk when buying second hand used equipment. Solder joints, if remade correctly are very hard to spot if original or not.

 

Leaked capacitors could do all sorts of malfunction to a circuit. If none of the buttons are working, perhaps the 'Hold' or 'Remote' mode is selected. There is a slight possibility of course that the logic control is fried. The capacitors on the JX505/2000 are concentrated in one area of the PCB and a large volume of electrically conductive liquid in a small area could easily overwhelm any electrical circuitry to cause any amount of short circuit or damage.

pawel - 2013-03-29 01:57

good heavens....sounds terrible...
anyway, I've paid just 30$ for it, and it looks perfect
so I'm still happy.

plop - 2013-03-29 07:53

Originally Posted by Walkman Archive:

That's true, Plop. I'm lucky to have both them.

 

Here they are:

 

AIWA Walkman HS-JX505 black 10-p

WA, just noticed the serial number on your left JX505 is only a few digits younger than the boxed JX505 I have.

 

I prefer the bi-azimuth mechanism. It lets me adjust the azimuth for recordings where the alignment may be out.

walkman.archive - 2013-04-01 08:48

Curious that we have closer serials. Me too prefer the bi-azimuth..

rainman - 2013-05-10 18:16

Originally Posted by Minty:
Anyone watching this auction for a HS-JX2000on eBay Germany? Item number:  190782497322. 8 days to run on the auction and already 999 euro!

If the jx2000 is full well-boxed, I‘d prefer to have the V99 earphone rather than the JX2000.

pawel - 2013-05-11 10:25

What is so special about V99 earphone ?

 

rainman - 2013-05-11 21:17

Originally Posted by pawel:

What is so special about V99 earphone ?

 

I dun know, just want to have a try. The price in CHN is up to 3800RMB, it's about 600+ AUD.

pawel - 2013-05-12 12:52

I got mine along with hs-jx2000 for 30$
so 600 AUD is defenitely way too much
for that price you can buy complete set in a box

not just the earphones.