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AIWA = Sony?

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  1. Mister X

    Mister X Moderator Staff Member

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    I think Marantz Professional is an off-shoot of Superscope, it should be pretty nice equipment. The Superscope Website only shows two products on it now, the others look like they've migrated to the Marantz Professional Website. The Marantz Name has been thrown around alot, like AIWA in the last five years.
     
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    +1 to that! Do not know much about Marantz boxes but, personally, I still fall for the BigName :( With Philips Discman I must have mentioned elsewhere, also Telefunken Radio bought new ~10 years ago from Radio Shack (remember those?) which tuning knob fell off the very next day of use.
    Dudes behind Harman Kardon must have been the first to realize that big $$$ hide behind "acquisitions-mergers-..." and not with hard work or 'good job' (as Bose realized about marketing vs. same lowly thingy!) And I did fell for HK bull also, with my 'surround sound' amp from ~1997. Its an ongoing disease, my fav Naim Audio is now under the same owner as Focal and during the Hi-End shows it is being presented as a combo. Maybe not the Worst combo imaginable, but Naim and Focal just do NOT click for me (and for quite a few Naim-Heads of my age)
     
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    Apparently Focal has been redesigned to work with Naim, I have not heard it yet. Focal I found shouty and in your face and Naim bright and Sharpe, just does not go together as my ears tell me.
     
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    maybe they did, the last I had a chance to hear the combination was before COVID shutdown, and it was as you said: too much of a "good thing" for even a Flat-Earther like myself. Thankfully, my local LA Naim dealers partnered Naim with Harbeth ugly-duckilngs to show that even present-day Naim is not all Bad.

    But! Given a second-chance (financially), I would still try to hunt down TOTL 'olive series' Naim that I used to have, not sure about Linn LP12: the headache of 'tune-ups' would be too much for me nowadays. DPS maybe, if I get hold of Naim ARO? Naim had finally produced their own TT, but it just looks ugly! Like McIntosh TT w/o stupid light-show.
     
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    My old boss was hell-bent into merging companies and using the core companies name, I always thought it was dumb to drop the aquired companies name. These days it's much more acceptable to keep the name and use it, there's even auctions for "brand names" every few years, I think that's how AIWA got aquired by a million different companies.

    The tool world is littered by takeovers and it usually follows manufacturing, just like audio did. Over on garagejournal.com and toolguyd.com they always have discussion on who is making what and in what country, it's pretty amazing that brands started in the 1900's are still around. Usually they are part of a larger group that has several similar companies.

    Hopefully you can get a stereo soon Jorge, you might want to take a vacation to Japan in Febuary when flights are cheap and go to Akihabara and look at all of the amazing equipment for sale. Pricing might be better here but they have so much equipment on display and there's still a ton of vintage shops around.
     
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    In contrast the car companies seem to want as many brands as possible. Here in the U.K. we have the following ranges, and I'm not even including exotics.

    From VAG; Volkswagen, Audi, Skoda, Seat, and now Cupra

    From Stellantis; Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Citroen, DS, Fiat, Jeep, Peugeot, Vauxhall

    Even more bizarrely you can buy an almost identical model from Citroens, Peugeot, or Toyota all made in the same factory.
     
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    all new cars look the same I'm glad i don't drive, anyway i don't do mickey mouse id want a Ferrari Lamborghini or a Bagatti lol
     
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    And all manufacturers seem to think everything should be controlled by a gigantic iPad. I'm actua;;y using an iPad here but aren't trying to drive a car at the same time. I like the look of photos of the yet to be released Cupra Born, but apparently it uses the same laggy touch screen as the VW ID3 which everyone criticises. Doug DeMuro reviewed a noughties Jag which had a touch screen AND physical buttons for all the main controls. While many of us were praising the idea someone suggested that if I didn't like touch screens, maybe I should get a Horse and Cart!
     
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    Ha ha I am happy am not the only one that thinks like this, I don’t need to look at a light show while I am trying to listen to music. McIntosh is the ugliest blingy equipment ever.
    For me the best thing when listening to music is that the equipment disappears and I get just the music, the equipment should never be in the way. I don’t want to see the equipment, it’s not about the equipment. I know some people like to see the equipment and have it looking imposing etc, not me.

    All cars look the same these days because they all have to meet these and that safety specs etc, so not a lot of room for creativity anymore.
     
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    The 90s were the last era of good automotive design. They didn't have to meet pedestrian impact standards, so their hoods and dashboards were really low, which simply looks better. Those low hoodlines also motivated the manufacturers to use more advanced suspension designs such as double-wishbones to deal with the limited clearance.

    Today every car is so tall that they look ugly unless you put 20" wheels on them, and you can barely see out of them because of their high dashboards and windowsills, and they use strut suspension which is an inferior design.
     
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    Some info on 90's AIWA, strangely it doesn't mention Sony's Ownership.
    1994


    The Japan Times July 11-17 1994.png
     
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    That doesn't happen until 2003
     
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    i cant stand touchscreen my friend, they just don't work for me and it's the main reason i have not had a mobile phone since the 90's
     
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    I thought Sony got the majority ownership around 92 when the logo changed? I also thought I had some clippings on here but my brain is getting rusty, good thing I do blue-collar work digging trenches and don't need the noggin as much.
     
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    Never knew Toshiba owned Onkyo, from 1978


    Audio Scene Canada 1978-07.png
     
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    All i can tell you mr x, that huge onkyo amp i bought (that i couldn't lift)

    was a total pos...it was supposed to be rated at 140w rms when in fact it couldn't have been more than 10w because one of my m90's blew it away lol
     
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    Make sure the MUTE switch is turned off! I just bought a big JBL Subwoofer today but online reviews are mixed. It will be fun to mess around with and get some ummph out of the TV.
     
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    it's a bit late for testing as it's gone Mr x also those jamo are gone as well buddy, i just didn't have the room....other members said those onkyo were not upto much tho so i'm not sure lad
     
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    Sony owns 50% from Time Magazine 1973, interesting article I wonder how it worked out for Motorola?


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